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Jan 30, 2004, 04:24 PM
 
If I am using Photoshop CS to edit photos, what is the purpose of iPhoto? Why not just use Photoshop to import photos and store in folders and then browse the folders? For example, I resized a photo in CS and saved it to an iPhoto album. But the pic does not appear in the album when I open it in iPhoto, though it is clearly a subfolder of "iPhoto ALBUMS." It does appear in the same album opened with Photoshop. Am I missing something? Would it not be simpler to use Photoshop for browsing as well as editing and have all of my photos in the same location without the aliases, thumbs and data files that iPhoto uses?
     
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Jan 30, 2004, 04:25 PM
 
Originally posted by sovereign:
If I am using Photoshop CS to edit photos, what is the purpose of iPhoto? Why not just use Photoshop to import photos and store in folders and then browse the folders? For example, I resized a photo in CS and saved it to an iPhoto album. But the pic does not appear in the album when I open it in iPhoto, though it is clearly a subfolder of "iPhoto ALBUMS." It does appear in the same album opened with Photoshop. Am I missing something? Would it not be simpler to use Photoshop for browsing as well as editing and have all of my photos in the same location without the aliases, thumbs and data files that iPhoto uses?
iPhoto = $49.99 w/iLife
Adobe Photoshop CS = $649.99
     
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Jan 30, 2004, 04:39 PM
 
I understand the price difference. I am only trying to understand if iPhoto and Photoshop are complimentary or substitute applications. iPhoto does have a nice look to it and I can view all of the photos in the one large library view, but I am really into simplicity regarding file locations and am just curious as to what I will lose by migrating all of my raw image files to photoshop folders and not using iPhoto anymore? Thanks.
     
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Jan 30, 2004, 04:45 PM
 
Originally posted by sovereign:
I understand the price difference. I am only trying to understand if iPhoto and Photoshop are complimentary or substitute applications. iPhoto does have a nice look to it and I can view all of the photos in the one large library view, but I am really into simplicity regarding file locations and am just curious as to what I will lose by migrating all of my raw image files to photoshop folders and not using iPhoto anymore? Thanks.
Well since they have very different capabilities I'd say they are complimentary.

As for whether *you personally* can get by with either one or the other, that's really up to you and your usage habits. If you don't mind using the finder directly to organize your photos/don't use .Mac or print ordering, don't care about slide shows/integration with other iLife apps, then go with the Finder/Photoshop combo exclusively. If, on the other hand, you use those features that are unique to iPhoto, then use iPhoto.
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Jan 30, 2004, 05:31 PM
 
iPhoto and Photoshop are two completely different apps. Photoshop is a PROFESSIONAL image editor. iPhoto is a CONSUMER photo organizer/browser/very limited editor. Photoshop could compliment iPhoto by offering a higher level of editing for your digital photos. But I don't see how iPhoto could compliment Photoshop, unless you use iPhoto strictly to organize your photos for use in Photoshop.
     
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Jan 31, 2004, 07:59 AM
 
Horses for courses.

iPhoto provides a simple way to import, organise and display your photos. It has some basic editing functions (with permanent undo - it keeps track of files nicely for you).

Photoshop is a very powerful and expensive image manipulation app. I use it a lot at work and would consider myself an expert user.

But at home I use iPhoto to manage the photo albums. It does a great job at that.

Sometimes I will take an image through Photoshop to remove some extraneous background feature or fix a colour cast or sharpness/noise issue. But the image ends up imported into iPhoto.
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Jan 31, 2004, 09:26 AM
 
I also uses both.
iPhoto is a simple way to see all my photos without navigating through a bunch of folders (I don't totaly agree with the way it organises folders by dates, but it's easy enough to find anything quick if you manage your albums properly) I never publish, print or anything else without having my photos through Photoshop for tweaks, color corrections or any other modifications.
     
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Jan 31, 2004, 10:07 AM
 
I use iPhoto to store all my images and to organize them nicely with al kind of things such as ratings, keywords, comments, titels, smart albums and normal albums. And I really like the option to share my pictures over rendezvous.
Most of my foto's don't need real photoshop editing. I use Photoshop when I need to do a project (mostly building intranets/websites) and then I will save the photoshoped pictures in the project directory.
I also use different applications for my pictures such as PhotoWarp for creating Quicktime VR or building image galleries with Image Rodeo (custom templates).
     
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Jan 31, 2004, 11:22 AM
 
So does anyone have any ideas why when I edit a photo in Photoshop and then save it to an iPhoto album, it can not be found in iPhoto?
     
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Jan 31, 2004, 11:56 AM
 
Originally posted by sovereign:
So does anyone have any ideas why when I edit a photo in Photoshop and then save it to an iPhoto album, it can not be found in iPhoto?

If you just put a file (via the Finder or a Applications save dialog) into the iPhoto Library Folder iPhoto doesn't know its their. You must drag it into iPhoto so that it then copies the file into its Library. If you wish to use Photoshop with iPhoto. Put the original in iPhoto then set up your external editor to Photoshop, you can then set iPhoto to open Photoshop instead of its internal editor, then you just do a cmd-s from inside Photoshop and it will save it right back into iPhoto.
     
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Jan 31, 2004, 12:09 PM
 
I am dragging the photo directly from a finder folder into iPhoto. It acts like it is doing something- it says "working, no camera is attached." It appears as though it is importing, but the photo is nowhere to be found in the library and the number of photos in the library does not increase, nor the overall file size of the lirary.
     
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Jan 31, 2004, 12:20 PM
 
Well, I find iPhoto's slideshow feature to be handy. And iPhoto is good at organizing your photo library, as people have already said. Plus, if you use the Kodak online print ordering, you can make a good case for iPhoto.

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Jan 31, 2004, 08:24 PM
 
After you drag the image check the 'last roll' icon on the left. The image should be there. If not you did something wrong. I am not sure iphoto can see photoshop files. I usually only import jpegs into iphoto; in the past this was because large files would immensely slow down iphoto.
Photoshop is not a replacement for iphoto (or vice-versa). If you have 5000 photos, and need to find one specific one, iphoto works great. Otherwise you need acdsee or iview or such. I then sometimes use the photoshop browser to look in the albums folder in the iphoto library folder. iPhoto organizes and this allows me to quickly find a photo that I know which album it is in with Photoshop.
     
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Feb 1, 2004, 01:23 AM
 
iPhoto does not work with Photoshop or RAW image file types. You need to use iPhoto's import function (File->Import) to get them into iPhoto. This automatically converts them to JPEG, so it won't work if you want to archive RAW files.

My workflow goes like this:
1) Import pictures to a certain directory using Image Capture.
2) Use Photoshop's file browser to look through the originals, deleting what isn't good.
3) Edit the images I want to keep (color-correction, red eye, etc.).
4) Use iPhoto's import function to convert all finished pictures to JPEG for archiving.
5) Delete originals.

Somewhere in the middle, I convert from JPEG to PSD so I'm not working with a lossy file. If your camera outputs RAW files, you won't need the extra step.
     
   
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