[moki]

An update to Ambrosia's Internet search utility, iSeek, has been released! iSeek 1.0.2 contains both enhancements and bug fixes to the popular utility.

You can download the new version here:

http://www.ambrosiasw.com/utilities/iseek/

Change list:

- improved Panther compatibility
- minor user interface updates
- added scrollwheel support for switching sites
- bug fixes
- idles properly (uses no CPU) when not in use
- improved favicon fetching
- other minor bug fixes
- updated Registration helper app
- fixes rare registration bug in 10.3.
- updated Japanese help

[benign]

Not picking on ambrosia or anything
but why should someone fork out for
iSeek when there is 'Another launcher'
that will do a whole lot more.

Peter Maurer's site:
http://www.petermaurer.de/nasi.php?t...prache=english

Figuratively rolls cigar between his fingers...

[thePurpleGiant]

Originally posted by benign:
Not picking on ambrosia or anything...

Sure you aren't. Every time I see moki post anything about a new product, update or improvement, I see a post by you immediately afterwards knocking it. Always.

I saw moki post this thread earlier, and wondered how long it would be until your 'moki thread' alarm went off so you could run in and dis it quickly.

I'm intrigued though: Is there a long standing hatred between moki and yourself? What happened?

[moki]

Originally posted by benign:
Not picking on ambrosia or anything
but why should someone fork out for
iSeek when there is 'Another launcher'
that will do a whole lot more.

iSeek does one thing, and it does it extremely well, with features that 'Another Launcher' does not have, not the least of which is a large library of search sites that are easily added/traded with other iSeek users.

The beauty, of course, is that you can download iSeek, and compare it side by side, and make your own decisions. If what you want is a quick, handy, Internet search tool with a great UI, iSeek is the ticket. If you want 60% of that functionality with a kitchen sink of other unrelated functions, then 'Another Launcher' is your ticket.

[benign]

Originally posted by thePurpleGiant:
Sure you aren't. Every time I see moki post anything about a new product, update or improvement, I see a post by you immediately afterwards knocking it. Always...

Nothing personal with Moki -
but with his companies PR maybe.
Ambrosia use these boards as free
advertisements. They produce a couple
of half decent utilities programs - one of
of which didn't function as well as it should
(Which I have invested over $100 in.)
...and another thats a $15 one trick pony,
bettered by a donationware alternative.

I paid top dollar for snapz ( OS9 and OSX)
to take movies and it never really delievered.
They partly rectify this and charge users
another $20 for the privilege.

[This is a genuine grievance from a
(multiply times) paid registered user.]

They take a good freeware app like
searchbar and make some easy cash
off it. But 'AnotherLauncher' can do
almost all that iSeek can do and alot
more besides.

[Just want to point this out to MacNN users
that there is an inexpensive alternative,
that can do a lot more for their workflow.
By all means try both, but do remember
there is a very customizable alternative. ]


Ambrosia charges for an upgrade that
was needed, not an extra but really a
necessity to make the app justify it's named
functions and original cost. Then after charging
an upgrade fee they post some desktops
of an expensive set of cigars -

[I joked at the irony of this show
of ostentation at the expense of
ambrosia's end users. ]

I have no problem with the idea of shareware
and support many developers, Just don't
feel this companies utilities programs are
best served by its PR decisions.
But I will 'back-off' and try not to annoy
anyone with this topic in future.

[moki]

Originally posted by benign:
Nothing personal with Moki -
but with his companies PR maybe.
Ambrosia use these boards as free
advertisements. They produce a couple
of half decent utilities programs - one of
of which didn't function as well as it should
(Which I have invested over $100 in.)
...and another thats a $15 one trick pony,
bettered by a donationware alternative. [/B]

First of all, I don't think we produce "half-decent utilities" -- if you do, that's fine. However, I don't think you'll find anything to rival Snapz Pro X 2.0 on any platform. We've looked at screen capture products on both the Mac and Windows.

There is simply nothing on the Mac side of things that is even in the same league. I'm not being boastful by saying that, it's simply the way it is. Feel free to try them out and compare, as we have done:

http://www.ambrosiasw.com/webboard/F...ML/000217.html

On the Windows side, Camtasia and SnagIt are both good products, but they are also significantly more expensive than Snapz Pro X 2.0, and we offer better performance, a more friendly and powerful UI, and features they lack.

I paid top dollar for snapz ( OS9 and OSX)
to take movies and it never really delievered.
They partly rectify this and charge users
another $20 for the privilege.

You also had the opportunity to try Snapz Pro out and decide if it did what you needed it to do. If it did not, I'm not sure why you paid for it -- we don't expect people to pay for our products if they find them lacking in some regard.

That said, Snapz Pro (classic) and Snapz Pro X 1.0.x have both been used by many professionals from companies like Apple, Adobe, etc. to record their videos. Apple even liked it so much, they bundled it with their computers for a while.

I think this speaks volumes about the usefulness of said products.

I should also note that when we introduced Snapz Pro (classic) with movie capture, the only other product on the market that did it at the time was called CameraMan. It sold for $129, and we offered better performance, and we priced it at $49.

Most of the professionals we work with feel we are **grossly** undercharging for Snapz Pro X 2.0, based on the features and performance it offers. When you take a look at the price of similar products on the Windows side of the fence that offer performance less than we do, I find it really hard to believe that we're producing anything half-decent or overcharging for it.

They take a good freeware app like
searchbar and make some easy cash
off it. But 'AnotherLauncher' can do
almost all that iSeek can do and alot
more besides.

I'm sorry, but you're wrong. This is an utter mischaracterization. We spent a LOT of time working on iSeek to make it what it is today. We did not simply rebrand anything and start charging for it.

[Just want to point this out to MacNN users
that there is an inexpensive alternative,
that can do a lot more for their workflow.
By all means try both, but do remember
there is a very customizable alternative. ]

You're attempting to draw an equivalency that doesn't exist. Yes, the launching program you mention offers *some* of the functionality that iSeek does, but it isn't a specialized Internet search tool, it is a kitchen-sink approach with many people do not like, and it also lacks a number of important features and GUI nicities that iSeek has.

As I said, download both, and evaluate them. If you think iSeek has nothing to offer you, then don't buy it. Why you feel the need to relentlessly slam our products is beyond me.

[huwb]

Hi Moki - glad to see you back. I was hoping that you were busy on Snapz Pro 2 and had not abandoned us.

I think think Benign has some deeper issues about Ambrosia to resolve before he will be happy.

For myself, I love Snapz Pro 2, but iSeek is not for me. I bought a license for one and not for the other. Ambrosia has a happy customer.

huwb

[MN Snowman]

Originally Posted by moki

However, I don't think you'll find anything to rival Snapz Pro X 2.0 on any platform. We've looked at screen capture products on both the Mac and Windows.

I hate to get between you and Benign, but wanted to raise a couple of questions about Snapz.

I'm a refugee from Windows and used Snag-it for a number of years.

I really liked the ability to grab an image using Snag-it and then enhance it -- especially with graphics, text, etc.

I don't think Snapz Pro X 2.0 has the same capabilities but maybe they exist but I'm not able to find 'em.

Does Snapz have this ability? If not, is there another option for me?

TIA.

[tooki]

Just to clarify: It is entirely acceptable for companies to post product announcements here. All we ask is that it be clear that it is a commercial product announcement, not stealth marketing. Ambrosia has always done an admirable job at this, by adding a [ANN] tag to subject lines, and using a signature that very obviously shows who is posting.

As for Ambrosia's software itself: everything I've ever seen come from that company, ever, has been immaculate. I feel that MacNN is privileged to have active members as distinguished as moki.

tooki

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by huwb

I think think Benign has some deeper issues about Ambrosia to resolve before he will be happy.

[acollins]

Since this thread has come to the forefront, I thought I'd chime in and ask moki if there is any further development planned for iSeek. I have been a happily registered user of iSeek since its initial release. Except for a few bug fixes, however, there hasn't been any active development of iSeek for quite a while.

Is there any future development planned for iSeek, or is it feature complete at this point?