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Krypton · Feb 18, 2004, 02:17 AM

aMSN

Yes it's Carbon, yes it looks just like MS Messenger for Mac, however, it actually works and displays buddy icons and supports file transfer. Not as nice as Adium, Fire or Proteus but it is feature complete.

OptimusG4 · Feb 18, 2004, 07:59 AM

I tried it last night and it does what it claims...it may be ugly but it works.

Horsepoo!!! · Feb 18, 2004, 08:29 AM

Gonna check it out...

Although things are brewing on the Proteus and Adium side, I believe, which might put aMSN back into the ugly hole where it came from (is it that ugly? ok, I'll go check it out).

Horsepoo!!! · Feb 18, 2004, 08:36 AM

Hehe...it is ugly, but it works.

brutal · Feb 18, 2004, 09:10 AM

yuck that's ugly!

working or not - Can't see myself using this.

Sarc · Feb 18, 2004, 08:42 PM

Why can't Adium or Proteus have that same functionality ... dammit.

brutal · Feb 19, 2004, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by Sarc:
Why can't Adium or Proteus have that same functionality ... dammit.

hear hear!

Jowy · Feb 19, 2004, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by Sarc:
Why can't Adium or Proteus have that same functionality ... dammit.

To my knowledge both Adium and Proteus are not ports from the Linux side, whereas aMSN is and thus that is why it has the GUI that even though I haven't used it, probably looks more Linuxish and the feature set that includes stuff that Adium and Proteus aren't able to do yet. I'm going off of the information the author mentioned about aMSN in the feedback on VT so please correct me if I'm wrong.

brapper · Feb 19, 2004, 04:40 PM

you know what, it strikes me as odd that no one else has done this yet.
This program works, and it works well. It has implemented everything lacking from the other programs I've used (Proteus, Fire, MSN) and I no longer have to make up excuses when my friends ask me to check out their pictures, or to accept a file transfer.
For that, I am grateful.

ambush · Feb 19, 2004, 05:13 PM

don't forget you can change the skin!!

Wow, this has totally replaced Microsoft's MSN. Totally.

**ZERO** problems with it so far, works well except some GUI glitches

Thank god someone ported this, I've been waiting for something like this since msn 6 was released for PC.

Sarc · Feb 19, 2004, 06:59 PM

anyway know *exactly* why a 9Meg download is needed to view Pictures ?!?!?

brapper · Feb 19, 2004, 11:48 PM

Originally posted by Sarc:
anyway know *exactly* why a 9Meg download is needed to view Pictures ?!?!?

yeah, 'cause support isn't built in perhaps...

sniffer · Feb 20, 2004, 02:01 AM

I luve it. It's only v. 0.90 something so it's really promising. And it comes with a good language pack as well. My native included. Yeha!

kovacs · Feb 20, 2004, 04:06 AM

Can't use it on a 800*600 screen because the save button is not visible in the preferences panel and I need to change the connection method because I'm using a proxy connection....

RevEvs · Feb 20, 2004, 04:29 AM

So, anyone up to make a nice theme for it? Im using Tux at the moment. Im not sure that illl keep using this tho once the new Proteus is out with user pics/file transfer, this app is very cool, and used it a while back on Linux, but due to it being TK based, I doubt it will ever be very mac like at all.

revs

brapper · Feb 20, 2004, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by RevEvs:
So, anyone up to make a nice theme for it? Im using Tux at the moment. Im not sure that illl keep using this tho once the new Proteus is out with user pics/file transfer, this app is very cool, and used it a while back on Linux, but due to it being TK based, I doubt it will ever be very mac like at all.

revs

yeah, but any idea when it'll be out???

RevEvs · Feb 20, 2004, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by brapper:
yeah, but any idea when it'll be out???

nope. when its done

revs

Sarc · Feb 20, 2004, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by brapper:
yeah, 'cause support isn't built in perhaps...

point is Mac OS X has built-in support for pretty much every file format out there ... so, again, why not use it instead of having to download additional 9megs.

ambush · Feb 20, 2004, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by Sarc:
anyway know *exactly* why a 9Meg download is needed to view Pictures ?!?!?

probably a lib of some sort

ambush · Feb 20, 2004, 02:56 PM

Hell, it's WAY faster and less buggy than MSN for Mac which is not ported from Linux, but SUPPOSED TO BE OS X NATIVE.

Microsoft is ********ting us, it all makes sense now.

King Bob On The Cob · Feb 20, 2004, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by Jowy:
To my knowledge both Adium and Proteus are not ports from the Linux side, whereas aMSN is and thus that is why it has the GUI that even though I haven't used it, probably looks more Linuxish and the feature set that includes stuff that Adium and Proteus aren't able to do yet. I'm going off of the information the author mentioned about aMSN in the feedback on VT so please correct me if I'm wrong.

Adium and Proteus are both going to be running on libgaim in their next iterations. So the goodness of Linux (good open source commandline program) and an OS X interface.

Angus_D · Feb 20, 2004, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by ambush:
Microsoft is ********ting us, it all makes sense now.

No, it's just that they're inept.

ambush · Feb 21, 2004, 11:56 PM

Originally posted by King Bob On The Cob:
Adium and Proteus are both going to be running on libgaim in their next iterations. So the goodness of Linux (good open source commandline program) and an OS X interface.

libgaim actually has an interface on Linux, it's Gaim.

I want to see some Proteus/Adium animosity!

brutal · Feb 22, 2004, 08:27 AM

Anyone tried dMSN?

ambush · Feb 22, 2004, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by brutal:
Anyone tried dMSN?

Where can I get a Mac build?

brapper · Feb 22, 2004, 09:27 AM

From the download page:
"About the FTP:
Please remember that passive mode needs to be enabled for most users, Internet Explorer has this option disabled by default so I recommend using a real FTP Client."

I changed my user agent to Mozilla, and clicked the FTP for mac os x and it began downloading...

brapper · Feb 22, 2004, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by brutal:
Anyone tried dMSN?

nope...but i will.

ambush · Feb 22, 2004, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by brapper:
nope...but i will.

post the link

brapper · Feb 22, 2004, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by ambush:
post the link

ftp://dmsn:dmsn@dstorm.mine.nu:50021...NoVM/Setup.zip

I downloaded it, but I can�t get it to do anything but bounce around in my dock for a couple of seconds......

EDIT: I tested the link and it�s not working, so you have to go to http://www.dmsn.nl/ and then to their downloads page and follow the above instructions.

RevEvs · Feb 22, 2004, 10:51 AM

To get dMSN working you will need to go

here: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/greg.macosx/dMSN.htm

and download the launchers. I installed both the dMSN launchers there.

revs

EDIT: to get it to look a lot nicer, set the skin to Java/OS X

brapper · Feb 22, 2004, 11:22 AM

i haven't played with dMsn very much, but from first impression, i'll be sticking with aMsn.
However, I like that they're working on video chat abilities...that's promising.

ryju · Feb 22, 2004, 11:37 AM

I think I'll stick with the official client until 1.0 of aMSN comes out. I keep missing messages from people, they show up in the dock but when I bring 'em up they are totally blank.

RevEvs · Feb 22, 2004, 11:59 AM

missing messages? hmmm that could explain a lot :|

revs

also, yeah dMSN is alright, but i rather aMSN, but ill echo the sentiment about them working on webcam support in dMSN, and that being a good thing!

brapper · Feb 22, 2004, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by RevEvs:
[B]missing messages? hmmm that could explain a lot :|
/B]

missing messages? weird. "cause prior to getting aMSN that was an issue for me with Proteus. So maybe it's an MSN wide problem 'caue a lot of friends have mentioned it being a problem too.

lothar56 · Feb 25, 2004, 11:44 PM

with the acutal MSN, the dock icon would bounce whenever someone said anything. Now it doesn't, so I forget to check and everyone leaves me. But the support of Display Pics is wonderful.

nobitacu · Feb 26, 2004, 04:48 AM

The only problem I have with aMSN is that when I chat with someone on the Wintel PC and they are typing in a different language ex: Chinese, the font becomes unreadable, as it becomes all messed up and square boxes with a X inside the box. So, this is why I can't use aMSN just yet... MSN from Microsoft doesn't have this problem as the chinese font text from the Wintel people's MSN comes through perfectly. I guess it's back to the old MSN from Microsoft until people at aMSN fixes this...

Ming

dru · Feb 26, 2004, 05:30 AM

Good find. It's much snappier than the vile official "native" client. The only drawback (already mentioned)... it doesn't dock bounce so it's easy to miss messages.

This shows that Microsoft MacBU is full of horse hair! Some how everyone can make snappy Mac products except them: browsers, messenger clients...

LIARS.

brapper · Mar 23, 2004, 03:11 PM

i've lost the ability to send files using aMSN...I can still accept them but they wont send from my end.
any ideas?

GlobalNomad · Mar 28, 2004, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by brapper:
i've lost the ability to send files using aMSN...I can still accept them but they wont send from my end.
any ideas?

I am able to send and recive files with MSN 3.5.1 however if both of you are behind a router you are unable to send/recive to that person. Is there a way to get around this?

GlobalNomad · Mar 30, 2004, 12:10 AM

When using aMSN you cant use
command + H to hide or use, command + ` to switch between the open windows... This is reallying irritatin. And it doesn't have alot of like stuff like, dragging ppl to different groups, dragging and dropping pictures from the finder to send them. Only thing it adds is to tell you when someone leaves a chat window, that is very cool... Shows who doesn't want to talk to you

dMSN allows you to see people msn picture with out installing some stuiped extra picture magic stuff.