[RooneyX]

I just noticed there is no feature/print command for printing score sheets and no score sheet view in the first place. This is an essential part of music making and it's not there.

???

[waffffffle]

Originally posted by RooneyX:
I just noticed there is no feature/print command for printing score sheets and no score sheet view in the first place. This is an essential part of music making and it's not there.

???

GarageBand is not a notation program. ProTools doesnt print scores either, yet it is the industry standard. If you want notation get Finale.

[spiky_dog]

Originally posted by waffffffle:
GarageBand is not a notation program. ProTools doesnt print scores either, yet it is the industry standard. If you want notation get Finale.

or Sibelius, my favorite.

[Judge_Fire]

Logic Express does rudimentary notation, too.

Here's a Score features comparison chart with Logic Express and Logic Pro side by side.

J

[tritonus]

Originally posted by RooneyX:
I just noticed there is no feature/print command for printing score sheets and no score sheet view in the first place. This is an essential part of music making and it's not there.

???

Yeah, a basic score editor would be nice. Maybe in GB 2.0? What do other people think?

[SupahCoolX]

Seems like more of a pro feature to me (for someone seriously composing a piece of music). GB is more intended for people to quickly whip up a little tune to play in the background of an iMovie, iDVD menu, or iPhoto slideshow, etc.

[chris v]

The score editor in Logic is really pretty nice. Not only can you print notation, you can edit the music by dragging the notes around.

Apple owns the technology, but they may not want to add too many of the features of their $1000.00 audio program to their $49.00 audio program.

CV

[spiky_dog]

are there even any score editors in commercial products that primarily deal with recorded audio?

[RooneyX]

It's just that Garageband does allow you to see what notes have been hit and allows you to modify each note. But you can't even print that out. A score editor would be pretty much an easy extension of that anyway.

I downloaded a demo of Sibilus but I'm not very impressed by the interface amd writing music on the sheet is very finicky. It would be really cool to utilize Ink to be able to write the score using a tablet and the software could digitize what you write.

[tritonus]

Originally posted by chris v:
The score editor in Logic is really pretty nice. Not only can you print notation, you can edit the music by dragging the notes around.

Apple owns the technology, but they may not want to add too many of the features of their $1000.00 audio program to their $49.00 audio program.

CV

Could anyone compare the score editor in Logic Express and Logic Pro then, please?

[tritonus]

Originally posted by spiky_dog:
are there even any score editors in commercial products that primarily deal with recorded audio?

Of course. Cubase, Logic...

[tritonus]

Originally posted by RooneyX:
It's just that Garageband does allow you to see what notes have been hit and allows you to modify each note. But you can't even print that out. A score editor would be pretty much an easy extension of that anyway.

I downloaded a demo of Sibilus but I'm not very impressed by the interface amd writing music on the sheet is very finicky. It would be really cool to utilize Ink to be able to write the score using a tablet and the software could digitize what you write.

Sibelius is very nice. Try a USB MIDI keyboard to enter your score. They call it "flexi-time" in Sibelius, I think. There is also a software included to scan your paper scores and transfer them into Sibelius.

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by tritonus:
Could anyone compare the score editor in Logic Express and Logic Pro then, please?

Judge Fire posted this link already, about six posts up from yours:

http://www.emagic.de/products/PRO/co...re.php?lang=EN

[RooneyX]

Originally posted by tritonus:
Sibelius is very nice. Try a USB MIDI keyboard to enter your score. They call it "flexi-time" in Sibelius, I think. There is also a software included to scan your paper scores and transfer them into Sibelius.

I'm going to pick up a keyboard today.

[spiky_dog]

Originally posted by tritonus:
Of course. Cubase, Logic...

to clarify: can cubase and logic produce a score from non-midi sources? like if you sang into a microphone or played a guitar...

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by spiky_dog:
to clarify: can cubase and logic produce a score from non-midi sources? like if you sang into a microphone or played a guitar...

no.

To my knowledge, the only software that can even treat audio as if it were MIDI data is Melodyne.

From the page, it doesn't look like that will analyze the audio and output the data to standard MIDI files that can then be imported into scoring software.

Might be worth asking them, though.

-s*

[spiky_dog]

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
no.

To my knowledge, the only software that can even treat audio as if it were MIDI data is Melodyne.

From the page, it doesn't look like that will analyze the audio and output the data to standard MIDI files that can then be imported into scoring software.

Might be worth asking them, though.

-s*

cool, thanks for the link. i'll post their reply in this thread. back to the original point: garageband is largely for recorded audio (although you can plug in a midi keyboard and use it as a source, admittedly). notation programs, such as my favorite sibelius, take only midi inputs. there's a huge distinction between the two, and asking for scoring features in garageband thus makes little sense.

[Weezer]

does anyone know if theres a way to turn off the god damn click when recording? you can turn it off for just playback, but its always on for recording. I dont want the damn click!

[Troll]

Originally posted by Weezer:
does anyone know if theres a way to turn off the god damn click when recording? you can turn it off for just playback, but its always on for recording. I dont want the damn click!

You should try to get used to a click track. Once you can work with it, it really helps to keep all of your stuff in time and opens up the possibility of doing bits without a drum track running in the background.

Anyway, Apple+U to switch it off, or go to Control and click on Metronome.

[Moonray]

The "export midi data" feature is missing too. Would be nice to have for midi-only songs.

-

[spiky_dog]

Originally posted by spiky_dog:
cool, thanks for the link. i'll post their reply in this thread. back to the original point: garageband is largely for recorded audio (although you can plug in a midi keyboard and use it as a source, admittedly). notation programs, such as my favorite sibelius, take only midi inputs. there's a huge distinction between the two, and asking for scoring features in garageband thus makes little sense.

my question to the melodyne folks:

Can Melodyne take a non-midi input, such as a vocal recording, and output a MIDI of the pitches and rhythms?

their reply:

Yes, this can be achieved in 2 seperate ways, either as realtime conversion (MIDI Send), where you able to transfer the Midi information of an audio file(velocity, bitchbend, pitch, rhythm) directly to a desired synth or softsynth module. The other way is to export your edited audio file as a Standard Midi File using Melodyne's comfortable export function.

so it is possible.

[Spheric Harlot]

Thanks for clearing that up!

That is VERY cool - even if it's only for monophonic (single-note) signals.

One day, I might buy melodyne....

[Buck_W]

Originally posted by tritonus:
Yeah, a basic score editor would be nice. Maybe in GB 2.0? What do other people think?

Does anyone know if the ability to print score sheets was added in GB 2.0? It doesn't appear to have that function, but I didn't want to be missing something.