[FlammableYurt]

I've recently become very skeptical of entourage (if you're curious why, see the post entitled "Enterouge completely reset itself"), and I am now looking for other alternatives besides Mail... Any suggestions?

[gorickey]

Originally posted by FlammableYurt:
...and I am now looking for other alternatives besides Mail...

Why not Mail.app? What are your needs?

[Turias]

There's always pine and mutt.

[thePurpleGiant]

Mail.

[turboSPE]

Originally posted by FlammableYurt:
I've recently become very skeptical of entourage (if you're curious why, see the post entitled "Enterouge completely reset itself"), and I am now looking for other alternatives besides Mail... Any suggestions?

I switched from Mail.app to GyazMail. It's a bit better IMHO. Still lacks spam filtering though.

turboSPE

[workerbee]

You might be interested in the built-in Mail client of the new Opera 7.5 beta browser, too.
A busy interface, but nice functionality, speedy (in my admittedly short tests with 2000 mails), integration with AddressBook, some Entourage-ish little details like live filtering (I think) and icons for "Call back" and similar stuff.
How they manage to do all what Opera 7.5 does in a 9.4 MB package, I don't know.

[dogcow993]

I recommend Mailsmith from BareBones all the time...

Best, Thorsten

[typoon]

What about Eudora? I also use Mail.app myself. Why not Mail.app?

[brutal]

mail.app rules!

[Turias]

There's also Mozilla Thunderbird.

[HOMBRESINIESTRO]

Mail.app!

[:dragonflypro:]

I spend way too much of my day dealing with email.

Mail.app is the best there is on X as far as I am concerned.

But it could use a lot of improvement.

• better search criteria and multiple values (ala Rules, or the Finders Search)
• wide screen (three column pane support)
• internal message tracking that works (show reply, real threading…not by subject)
• cross folder viewing (i.e. view all message received today)
• integrated MailEnhancer and Priority features (but at least these extensions are there)
• arbitrary coloring and flagging (not only by rules) and categories.
• a 'real' default account
• better integration of the 'activity window' or some other method to view retrieval process
• better handling of attachments on sending (not arbitrarily parked in the text, but in a menu at the top of a New Message like that of a Received message.)

There is more… but, maybe a lot of it is me.

Like I said, I get way too much email and things like this would be a HUGE thing for me. I always hoped OMNI would do a mail client, but they have stated that Mail.app is good enough for them. I have high hopes for Gyaz (as I did for the dead SweetMail/Namera) but until someone gets serious about it…Mail.app it is.

T

[deminisma]

I like GNUmail myself.

[Mrjinglesusa]

Mail.app! It works great and the junk mail filter catches about 98% of my junk mail.

[IronPen]

Gyazmail - No IMAP support, so this doesn't work for me no matter how good it might be. Too bad, I've wanted to try it for over a year, but I have no POP accounts. They say IMAP support is coming, but they've been saying that for a while. I'd be concerned about the future of this one, honestly.

GNUMail - Tried it and it keeps giving me errors when I'm trying to delete messages. The developer said that is because the IMAP account is open elsewhere by someone else, but no other mail programs I've tried give me this error. Set up wasn't bad and the features were pretty good, but I didn't find any reason to use it over Mail.app or Thunderbird. It has potential though. I don't see much happening with development, so this is another program I am concerned about, but at least it is free.

Mail.app - It's made by Apple so it is simple to use. It integrates with Address Book and it's easy to setup and use. The junk mail filter is amazing! I still HATE that you can't set a minimum font size and you can't override other fonts like you can with Thunderbird, but overall, it's great, and it integrates with my work LDAP server, so it's a no-brainer for me.

I haven't tried the others, but I thought I'd throw in some useful information to help you and others rather than saying, "Mail.app rules!! " Duh! Also, search the forums, this topic comes up often.

[IronPen]

I guess part of my message got cut out.

Thunderbird - second-best mail app for OS X, IMHO. Features, speed, nice search and junk mail filters. I also like how it allows you to see minimal headers. Threads are nice, also in Mail.app. It doesn't intergrate with my LDAP server or my OS X Address Book, and these features are a must for me. It doesn't look very OS X like and the aqua widgets are too large. Still, you can download themes and there will soon be a theme much like the new OS X theme for FireFox.

Eudora - there is a free version, but it lacks some features. Still, if you want features, Eudora is probably what you want. It can handle large quantities of email really well, but the interface is one of the worst, IMO. It has been around a while, so the interface is old and goes back to who knows when. It took a long time to get through the preferences if that tells you anything.

I hope this helps. Have fun!

[workerbee]

Originally posted by IronPen:
Still, if you want features, Eudora is probably what you want. It can handle large quantities of email really well, but the interface is one of the worst, IMO. It has been around a while, so the interface is old and goes back to who knows when.

Heh... the oldest mails I can find on my 'book date from 1996. Eudora's UI is basically unchanged since then, they've just added oodles of features and arcane preferences one can get lost in.

The one Eudora feature no other e-mail app has, and which I sorely miss, is its ability to differenciate between mails I received and mails I sent in the mails listing window. I.e. I have a folder for project A, with 3 or 4 different mail addresses, where all the correspondence for this project (or client) goes; when I list this window in Eudora, I see who sent me a mail and, in italics, who I sent a mail to. In the other mail apps, I see who sent me a mail, and my own name dozens or hundreds of times -- I either have to open a mail or have a second column "sent to" open to see who I sent it to.

Why no-one else (Mailsmith at least tries to, but somehow it never really worked for me) can provide this simple and incredibly useful way of showing mails is beyond me. (Sorry for rambling: this is my pet peeve)

[osiris]

Mail.app is great! I love the spam filters and multiple mailboxes.

[Crasian]

I dunno..Apple OS X Mail.....I don't even know how to make a folder in that app.

How do i do that?

[cpac]

Originally posted by Crasian:
I dunno..Apple OS X Mail.....I don't even know how to make a folder in that app.

How do i do that?

Mailbox -> New

or just click the little "+" button at the bottom of the drawer

or click the little "action" (weird flower thing) button in the drawer and select "New"

[HOMBRESINIESTRO]

What about M2, the Mail Client in the latest Opera 7.50 beta?
Has anyone tried it yet?

[F_Elz]

I have used the Opera mail client, and I must say, it does everything I need. Great features too.

[pliny]

Eudora's html handiling is not very good. Alot of times stuff is borken or if it does show up it takes awhile and looks messed up.

Entourage isn't bad but then you have all your stuff stored in one large database that can be corrupted or otherwise damaged.

I like mail.app cause it's integrated pretty easily into other things and has very good rendering and keeps stuff in different mboxes, which makes for easy portability.