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ClaraT · Apr 6, 2004, 08:45 AM

I have installed Office 98 on my ibook G4, OSX 10.3.3. I can't print from Word 98, because I'm told to go to the chooser and select the printer, which I do, but I get a message that says it isn't installed.

But I did install it.

I can print from Appleworks, the internet, quicken etc. when I'm in OSX. So what do I need to do to be able to print from the Classic environment?

thanks,

ClaraT

gorickey · Apr 6, 2004, 09:28 AM

How is your printer connected to your computer?

larkost · Apr 6, 2004, 09:42 AM

The Classic environment uses different printer drivers from MacOS X. If you installed the printer for Carbon/Cocoa/POSIX programs, then you still need to install the driver for Classic. This was the only way to allow 99% of the Classic printing system to work.

CharlesS · Apr 6, 2004, 11:42 AM

Here's a tip - if it's an old Mac-compatible laser printer, chances are they didn't make their own separate driver, but rather they installed a PPD to use with the Apple LaserWriter 8 driver. In many cases, I have found that printing to such printers requires AppleTalk to be turned on. Try going to System Prefs -> Network -> AppleTalk and switch it on, then hit Apply, and finally go to a Classic app, select the Chooser from the Apple menu, and see if you can select your printer.

Frankly, given how many other settings Classic inherits from the host OS, I'm surprised Apple didn't make some sort of printer driver for Classic that would just send convert print jobs to PDF and send them through the OS X printing system.

ClaraT · Apr 6, 2004, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by CharlesS:
Here's a tip - if it's an old Mac-compatible laser printer, chances are they didn't make their own separate driver, but rather they installed a PPD to use with the Apple LaserWriter 8 driver. In many cases, I have found that printing to such printers requires AppleTalk to be turned on. Try going to System Prefs -> Network -> AppleTalk and switch it on, then hit Apply, and finally go to a Classic app, select the Chooser from the Apple menu, and see if you can select your printer.

Frankly, given how many other settings Classic inherits from the host OS, I'm surprised Apple didn't make some sort of printer driver for Classic that would just send convert print jobs to PDF and send them through the OS X printing system.

Thanks for the input on this. I'll give your suggestions a try. larkost, what do I need to do to install the printer driver so that Classic recognizes it?

My printer is about 8 mos. old. . .HP 6110 (all-in-one). I plug it into a usb port.

Thanks,

ClaraT

CharlesS · Apr 6, 2004, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by ClaraT:
Thanks for the input on this. I'll give your suggestions a try. larkost, what do I need to do to install the printer driver so that Classic recognizes it?

My printer is about 8 mos. old. . .HP 6110 (all-in-one). I plug it into a usb port.

Thanks,

ClaraT

Ah, if it's USB, then my suggestion is probably not going to work.

In this case, I would go to http://www.hp.com/ , click on Support and Drivers, enter your printer model, and get the OS 9 driver.

ClaraT · Apr 6, 2004, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by CharlesS:
Ah, if it's USB, then my suggestion is probably not going to work.

In this case, I would go to http://www.hp.com/ , click on Support and Drivers, enter your printer model, and get the OS 9 driver.

Uh, ok. I went to the HP website and came across this:

"Though Mac OS 9 is not fully supported by HP because it is only an emulation of the full system 9 environment, this solution seems to get the AIO units printing through Classic without a problem. The Customer must have a full version of OS 9 installed on the system in order for this process to work properly."

As I'm not technically savvy, I'm not sure I want to take this on. There's a list of instructions that follows that I got lost on. I think OS 9 is on the ibook G4 with OS X, right?

So, maybe I should switch gears. What's involved in upgrading to Office 2004 from Office 98 besides $250. Several years back someone gave me their Office 98 disk to load and I'm wondering if I can purchase the upgrade if I didn't pay for Office 98?

All I want to do is print

thanks some more.

ClaraT

CharlesS · Apr 6, 2004, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by ClaraT:
Uh, ok. I went to the HP website and came across this:

"Though Mac OS 9 is not fully supported by HP because it is only an emulation of the full system 9 environment, this solution seems to get the AIO units printing through Classic without a problem. The Customer must have a full version of OS 9 installed on the system in order for this process to work properly."

As I'm not technically savvy, I'm not sure I want to take this on. There's a list of instructions that follows that I got lost on. I think OS 9 is on the ibook G4 with OS X, right?

It's a simple matter of downloading the installer and running it. That's all. Don't worry about OS 9 - it's what starts up when you run a program in the Classic environment.

So, maybe I should switch gears. What's involved in upgrading to Office 2004 from Office 98 besides $250. Several years back someone gave me their Office 98 disk to load and I'm wondering if I can purchase the upgrade if I didn't pay for Office 98?

No, you can't get the upgrade if you didn't pay for Office 98. Also, what you're doing is illegal - pirating software that's not yours. Anyway, it's certainly in your best interest to get the OS X version of Office. If you're a student or a teacher, you can get it at a huge educational discount.

ClaraT · Apr 7, 2004, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by CharlesS:
It's a simple matter of downloading the installer and running it. That's all. Don't worry about OS 9 - it's what starts up when you run a program in the Classic environment.

No, you can't get the upgrade if you didn't pay for Office 98. Also, what you're doing is illegal - pirating software that's not yours. Anyway, it's certainly in your best interest to get the OS X version of Office. If you're a student or a teacher, you can get it at a huge educational discount.

All points noted. It was collaboration on a work project that required my needing office at the time.

Thanks for your assistance here.

ClaraT

wataru · Apr 7, 2004, 09:53 AM

If all you want to do is print, give NeoOffice/J a try. It is OS X native, and has a good degree of compatibility with Word documents.

Other programs with Word compatibilty are TextEdit, AppleWorks, and probably some others you can find on VersionTracker. You don't need Word to open a Word doc unless it's a pretty complex one.