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iTunes 4.5 CORRUPTS PLAY COUNTS!!!! URGENT!
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Apr 28, 2004, 12:24 PM
 
<<<<<<If you haven't installed 4.5, WAIT!

I installed this morning on my PB G4 1GHZ. Everything seemed to go fine, I also updated my iPod to the new SW. While looking at my library, I see that all of my play counts are whacko. like "-2138179384" and "1223474"....completely screwed up.

A-Has this happened to anyone else?

B-How can this be fixed, is it possible? Can I just delete a prefs file or something without having to recreate a whole new library file??>>>>>>>

I have found a fix, see post below.
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Apr 28, 2004, 12:32 PM
 
Let's be glad if this is the most significant bug. I couldn't care less about play counts. As long as it doesn't hose your library or something.

P.S. There are already several other iTunes threads.
     
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Apr 28, 2004, 12:36 PM
 
Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
P.S. There are already several other iTunes threads.
Yes, that's right. But I didn't want someone reading half of one of those threads, thinking "Ok I'll install this, seems like a great update!", then ruining their library before getting to my post.

Maybe play counts aren't important to some people, but for me, using them with smart playlists was a major part of the iTunes/iPod experience for me.

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Apr 28, 2004, 12:44 PM
 
my playcounts are fine
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Apr 28, 2004, 12:47 PM
 
Originally posted by jfischetti:
my playcounts are fine
same here...
     
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Apr 28, 2004, 01:05 PM
 
Originally posted by jfischetti:
my playcounts are fine
everything fine with my playcounts too...
maybe some more isolated problem?
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Apr 28, 2004, 01:06 PM
 
Mine are fine as well.
     
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Apr 28, 2004, 01:11 PM
 
mine are cool too - seems maybe a fluke?
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Apr 28, 2004, 01:20 PM
 
Playcounts are good on an iBook G3 800 10.3.3 and PowerBook 12" 1.33 (same OS)
     
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Apr 28, 2004, 01:20 PM
 
No problems here.

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Apr 28, 2004, 01:32 PM
 
OMG, MINE IS CORRU...oh wait, it's fine.
     
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Apr 28, 2004, 01:34 PM
 
In case this happens to anyone else, here is the fix:

iTunes doesn't overwrite your old library file when it updates to 4.5. Instead, it creates a new library file and renames your original one "iTunes Library (Old)". I trashed the corrupt library file, made the old one the default one, and when 4.5 opened it (for a second time) updated the library. This time, when it updated the library, it didn't screw up the play counts as it did the first time. Maybe it was a fluke, but it DID happen, so I'm sure it will happen to someone else at some point..


That's all,
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Apr 28, 2004, 01:38 PM
 
No play count issues here.
     
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Apr 28, 2004, 01:46 PM
 
ditto..
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Apr 28, 2004, 01:58 PM
 
Works here.
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Apr 28, 2004, 02:34 PM
 
This is weird.. play-counts are fine here
     
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fine here also.
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Apr 28, 2004, 04:22 PM
 
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Apr 28, 2004, 09:26 PM
 
I fail to see how this could be URGENT. BTW, mine are fine.
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Apr 28, 2004, 09:39 PM
 
URGENT! URGENT! YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN ON THIS ONE!!!!!!!!!!

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Apr 28, 2004, 09:44 PM
 
Well, I have some playcounts there, don't know if they're right, because I never actually look at them.
     
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Apr 29, 2004, 08:53 AM
 
Originally posted by Macpilot:
I fail to see how this could be URGENT. BTW, mine are fine.
How could it be urgent? Because maybe it was happening to a large number of people but I was just one of the first to notice it, b/c it wasn't obvious right after I installed. It was only after I played around in there a bit that I saw the problem.

It was urgent because I didn't want it to be a widespread problem and have others install 4.5 who hadn't already, IF in fact it turned out to be a widespread problem.

If you'd prefer, next time maybe a problematic update comes out no one will make you aware of it and it can screw up your system. (Not saying that's what happened exactly to me, btw.) But I'm fairly sure it would be URGENT to you THEN. Next time I'll keep quiet and not try to help people by letting them know about a problem.

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Apr 29, 2004, 09:10 AM
 
Josh,

I think your definition of urgent is different them most.

I would only put urgent of there was a significant flaw in the application. Most users don't care about the play count. Of the 20% that do, this would be an issue, but it seems to be an isolated incident...

That's why you are receiving the backlash.

You could have avoided this all my simply posting with a less alarming title.
     
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Apr 29, 2004, 09:28 AM
 
Hey, mine are broken
Each time I listen to a song, it gets bigger (+ 1 to be precise)

Any idea ?
     
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Apr 29, 2004, 06:24 PM
 
fine here, but my songs are very uniformly tagged and checked for corruption (though I lack a check for non-standard MP3s, badly encoded, the stuff that gives mpg123 a heart attack)

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Apr 29, 2004, 09:11 PM
 
Originally posted by yukon:
fine here, but my songs are very uniformly tagged and checked for corruption (though I lack a check for non-standard MP3s, badly encoded, the stuff that gives mpg123 a heart attack)
I would normally recommend running them through VBRFIX, but the author has taken his site down.
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Apr 29, 2004, 09:57 PM
 
Thanks ReggieX, I've searched, and all I've ever found is "Fixes RIAA Corruption! Loud Pitched Screeches Begone!" etc stuff. I'm looking for something that can scan a file and see whether it's incomplete, corrupted, or maybe even encoded with something like XING or has generally low quality. Seems like this program rewrites broken headers for VBR MP3s, but still useful.

A hydrogenaudio.org discussion of VBRFIX (hydrogenaudio used to be R3Mix.net if any remember)-
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/index.p...pic=19761&amp;

However, this lead me to something called mp3utility, hosted on Geocities (of all places), seems like it's what I'm looking for. Here's the description page, the main is linked on it-http://www.geocities.com/mp3utility/desc.html

EDIT: rather than reply to my post, i'm adding this in (try this once in a while, post count whores). Running the Windows-only MP3 Utility. It's processed about 327 files, a fraction, but it's found numourous files with out of sync audio, and one album without a "second frame header for VBRI file". It's picking out mostly Kazaa crap, and some of my scratched CD rips. Some rare files unfortunatly. Slow over a network. I'll email the creator for him to continue his work, or open source the program so it can be ported to *NIX and improved. Sorry for the thread hijacking, continue on about how nothing happens
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