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NDBounce · 08:35 PM

I am having an interesting situation with a brand new 12" 1.33Ghz powerbook.

When I go to the following site:

www.urnewman.org/new (note site is under construction so all links don't really work) I have the following situation happen:

Mozilla Firebird & IE: The blue looks like a aqua green.

Safari: The graphic (top portion) renders the blues properly but the color #006699 (web safe) still renders as an aqua green.

I have an iBook and it renders the blues just fine in all browsers, as does my PC, but the Powerbook is not rendering it properly. Even more confusing is that in safari the browser renders the .jpg file blue but the bg color green.

Can someone with a 12.1" 1.33Ghz Powerbook tell me if they get the same issue? Does anyone have suggestions? I tried to claibrate the LCD and that did not do anything.

I have never seen anything like this happen before.

The PB has 768MB Ram, OS X.3.3

Peace,

O
B unce!

P.S. MacNN is also appearing Aqua Green instead of blue...suggestions anyone?

NYCFarmboy · May 9, 2004, 09:04 PM

new rev c 12" powerbook

I just ran loaded that website in Safari, IE and Mozilla and it looked the same to me in all 3 on my rev c EXCEPT in Safari only....the background above the "HOME" bar where it says Catholic whatever is darker than below.. it is a darker blue....on Mozilla and IE the background color is uniformly the same.

the photos change all the time so its hard to judge on those.

What specifically is aqua green that should not be?

bpd115 · May 9, 2004, 09:06 PM

Same configuration, same results.

Odd..

NYCFarmboy · May 9, 2004, 09:12 PM

here is a screenshot:

NDBounce · May 9, 2004, 09:27 PM

NYCFarmboy,

Thanks for the screen shots. I downloaded as display profile and that helped me a lot. Basically the part that said home, etc etc was showing up a more green than blue, as was the entire MacNN site.

I'm a little confused why the safari screws up the picture on the powerbook and does not do this on my iBook...

BUT, at least it is no longer green on my screen. I assume the rest is actually a design issue and I can look in to that later.

MacNN and my site are now showing blue again. In case this happens to anyone else, the profile I downloaded can be found at http://www.simongbrown.com/photoblog/2004/04/10.html

Peace,

O
B unce!

bpd115 · May 10, 2004, 09:22 AM

just a heads up this is doing the same on my Dual 2Ghz Powermac as well

madmacgames · May 10, 2004, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by NDBounce:
MacNN and my site are now showing blue again. In case this happens to anyone else, the profile I downloaded can be found at http://www.simongbrown.com/photoblog/2004/04/10.html

Is it just me or does that profile have a bit too much red to it?

chabig · May 10, 2004, 10:16 AM

How do we know that Safari isn't correct and the other browsers are wrong? From IE, I saved the top image to my desktop and then opened it in Preview. Guess what? It looks exactly like Safari rendered it. This makes me suspect that IE's rendering is incorrect.

Chris

chabig · May 10, 2004, 10:24 AM

More testing...I opened Photoshop and filled a rectangle with color #006699. The Photoshop color looked like the darker blue that Safari correctly renders in the header image of the web page. So it looks to me like all of the browsers are rendering that color incorrectly in the background of the web page. And it just so happens that IE also renders it incorrectly in the image, which just happens to make it match the background.

Chris

madmacgames · May 10, 2004, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by chabig:
More testing...I opened Photoshop and filled a rectangle with color #006699. The Photoshop color looked like the darker blue that Safari correctly renders in the header image of the web page.

I get the exact opposite.

I opened ImageReady and filled a rectangle with #006699 and the color matched near exact with the BG of the webpage.

Taking a screen shot of safari, the BG of the image reads as #2262A9 in ImageReady and the BG of the page reads as #006599 (a near exact match).

In IE, the BG of both the image and page read as #006599

chabig · May 10, 2004, 09:29 PM

Using the Digital Color Meter, the background blue is #006599 and yet the header image blue is #144B92. IE displays #144B92 different than all of my other Mac apps (Preview, Photoshop, Safari). I wonder why?

Chris

bighead · May 10, 2004, 09:48 PM

AFAIK, all of the Apple apps use ColorSync while IE does not.

chabig · 11:41 PM

You may have hit on the answer. But I also wonder whether it could be something in the css stylesheet for that site.

Chris

ChrisF · May 11, 2004, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by NDBounce:
Safari: The graphic (top portion) renders the blues properly but the color #006699 (web safe) still renders as an aqua green.

The banner image is saved with an embedded ColorSync profile (SRGB). Safari recognizes it and uses that profile. Resaving the image without the profile embedded will allow it to match as expected and also has the benefit of reducing the file size.
Oddly, enabling ColorSync in Internet Explorer has the opposite effect: when it's enabled, the colors match. In fact, you can see the mismatched colors load and then the appearance of the banner image changes to match.
Color management behavior in browsers is odd to say the least- at this time it seems safest to just not embed any profiles and go from there. Some images can double in size from having the profile embedded, so that's another reason not to embed them.
In any case, the problem has nothing to do with the display in your Powerbook.

NDBounce · May 12, 2004, 08:49 PM

Okay...being new to photoshop and all (and only having it at a work machine which is a PC

) let me ask this:

How do I save without embedding the profile?

Thank you much,

O
B unce!

NDBounce · May 12, 2004, 09:23 PM

Originally posted by NDBounce:
Okay...being new to photoshop and all (and only having it at a work machine which is a PC ) let me ask this:

How do I save without embedding the profile?

Thank you much,

O
B unce!

Nevermind, I realize I just need to uncheck the ICC profile box when I save.

Thank you all for your help.

Peace,

O
B unce!