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Ludovic Hirlimann · May 13, 2004, 02:13 AM

As some of you may know Camino, the native gecko-based browser is near beta for the 0.8 release. This will be the last release to support Mac OS X 10.1, so we need 10.1 users to test this beta carefully and report bugs, so we can correct them in time for the release.
Grab you're copy of Camino here

gorickey · May 13, 2004, 07:48 AM

Is this FC1 of Camino 0.8?

Ludovic Hirlimann · May 13, 2004, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by gorickey:
Is this FC1 of Camino 0.8?

Not yet. I will announce FC1 here. At the momment I'm just looking for 10.1 users to squash 10.1 bugs.

gorickey · May 13, 2004, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by Ludovic Hirlimann:
Not yet. I will announce FC1 here. At the momment I'm just looking for 10.1 users to squash 10.1 bugs.

Cool, thanks! Man oh man, how many here are still running 10.1 though?!?

RevEvs · May 13, 2004, 09:01 AM

will the FC have the new tabs? when are they going to be in the nightlies?

revs

mitchell_pgh · May 13, 2004, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by gorickey:
Cool, thanks! Man oh man, how many here are still running 10.1 though?!?

I must agree. I can understand 10.2.8 people holding out, but seriously, 10.1 people...

10.1 people are loving their IE 5...

Krypton · May 13, 2004, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by RevEvs:
will the FC have the new tabs? when are they going to be in the nightlies?

revs

The new tabs are a post 0.8 feature - once 10.1 support is jettisoned, new features will find their way into nightlies.

Socially Awkward Solo · May 13, 2004, 09:57 AM

10.1 is for losers

Eug Wanker · May 13, 2004, 10:00 AM

Just a question. Why the decision to drop 10.1? Are you using components of X.2/X.3, or is just because support three OSes is too much of a pain?

iNeusch · May 13, 2004, 10:01 AM

10.1 users please read :
you should really upgrade to 10.3

Ludovic Hirlimann · May 13, 2004, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
Just a question. Why the decision to drop 10.1? Are you using components of X.2/X.3, or is just because support three OSes is too much of a pain?

Because we will use componenet only available in os X 10.2 and above.

mitchell_pgh · May 13, 2004, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by Ludovic Hirlimann:
Because we will use componenet only available in os X 10.2 and above.

Totally reasonable.

If you are on 10.1, you obviously aren't trying maximize your CPU, so stick with what you are currently using.

If you were dropping 10.2 support, I'd probably say it's a premature move, but once 10.4 is out, I bet you wills tart to see 10.2 support drop.

chris_h · May 13, 2004, 11:25 PM

10.1? The stone age called, they want their OS back.

Krypton · May 14, 2004, 10:16 AM

This whole testing thing is quite amusing:

1. Tiny percentage of OS X users still using 10.1 (I assume)
2. Relatively small number of all Mac users using Camino

Therefore, a tiny number multiplied by another small number equals very little. However, someone feel free to prove me wrong.

Ludovic Hirlimann · May 14, 2004, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by Krypton:
This whole testing thing is quite amusing:

1. Tiny percentage of OS X users still using 10.1 (I assume)
2. Relatively small number of all Mac users using Camino

Therefore, a tiny number multiplied by another small number equals very little. However, someone feel free to prove me wrong.

I will 10.1 users don't have access to Safari, they Have an aging IE which has not been updated for a while. They Have mozilla or FireFox, which I doubt is tested on the platform and they Have Camino. SO yes the number is small, but in % I think much more 10.1 users use a Mozilla based browser then 10.2 and 10.3 users.

Krypton · May 14, 2004, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by Ludovic Hirlimann:
I will 10.1 users don't have access to Safari, they Have an aging IE which has not been updated for a while. They Have mozilla or FireFox, which I doubt is tested on the platform and they Have Camino. SO yes the number is small, but in % I think much more 10.1 users use a Mozilla based browser then 10.2 and 10.3 users.

Well I see your (quite valid) point, but in my experience people who see no advantage in upgrading their copy of OS X, are also of the opinion that IE 5 suffices for their browsing needs.

Ludovic Hirlimann · May 14, 2004, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by Krypton:
Well I see your (quite valid) point, but in my experience people who see no advantage in upgrading their copy of OS X, are also of the opinion that IE 5 suffices for their browsing needs.

But more and more ssite do not display properly/do not work with those old IE versions. So they'll need to upgrade one day. Hence I'm asking them ddo to it NOW so we can give them the best.

Chuckit · May 14, 2004, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by Krypton:
Well I see your (quite valid) point, but in my experience people who see no advantage in upgrading their copy of OS X, are also of the opinion that IE 5 suffices for their browsing needs.

I stuck with 10.1 at home until Panther came out. Jaguar just didn't offer anything particularly compelling to me. But really, I never thought IE 5 was sufficient for anything but making sure the Trash works properly. I used Camino.