[Developer]

http://www.onestat.com/html/aboutus_pressbox30.html

The most popular browsers on the web are:

1. Microsoft IE 6.0 69.3%
2. Microsoft IE 5.5 12.9%
3. Microsoft IE 5.0 10.8%
4. Mozilla 2.1%
5. Opera 7.0 1.02%
6. Microsoft IE 4.0 0.6%
7. Safari 0.71%

Microsoft's Internet Explorer global usage share is 93.9% according to OneStat.com

[Spheric Harlot]

um...wow?


(but how many Safari users have their browser set to ID as something else for those boneheaded "won't-work-on-anything-else" web designs?)

-s*

[JLL]

Originally posted by Developer:
http://www.onestat.com/html/aboutus_pressbox30.html

The most popular browsers on the web are:

1. Microsoft IE 6.0 69.3%
2. Microsoft IE 5.5 12.9%
3. Microsoft IE 5.0 10.8%
4. Mozilla 2.1%
5. Opera 7.0 1.02%
6. Microsoft IE 4.0 0.6%
7. Safari 0.71%

Microsoft's Internet Explorer global usage share is 93.9% according to OneStat.com

Should we trust people who think that .6% is larger than .71%?

[CharlesS]

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
(but how many Safari users have their browser set to ID as something else for those boneheaded "won't-work-on-anything-else" web designs?)

Count me as one. I often encounter sites that need me to have the user agent set to IE/Windows in order for them to think they can work.

The annoying thing is, I've seen one site for a piece of closed-source freeware software for Windows that was ported to Linux. You'd think it wouldn't be hard for this software to be ported to Darwin, but the author won't do it, and his FAQ states that he won't accept help from anyone that will offer to recompile it on Darwin for him. Why? Because his web server logs show that there aren't enough Mac users browsing his site for there to be interest. Argh... web server logs are almost useless for determining Mac vs. PC usage, because of how many Mac users change the user agent to IE6/Win!

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by JLL:
Should we trust people who think that .6% is larger than .71%?

Egads, you're right!

Silly people; everyone knows that .71% is almost twelve times .6%!

:: shakes head ::

[turtle777]

Originally posted by JLL:
Should we trust people who think that .6% is larger than .71%?

Bummer.

That just confirms my hesitancy to believe in statistics that I haven't forged myself.

-t

[ghporter]

The mistake with the order browsers were listed in is probably from the number of users that tell Safari to spoof the ID-it confused the survey!

Really, I have few problems with Safari identifying itself as Safari, but there's one web application that just WON'T work, no matter what I tell Safari to identify itself as. It's called "WebCT," and it's used by universities for online assignments and so on. A piece of... well, it's not the niceest application I've seen by quite a bit. It works fine with IE 5.5, but it you have Safari ID as IE 5.5 it doesn't work at all...(????!!!!????) It's enough to make me take up drinking so I could give it up.

[gorickey]

We're moving on up...to the East side...

[timmerk]

GHPorter: WebCT works fine for me with Safari.

[Developer]

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
(but how many Safari users have their browser set to ID as something else for those boneheaded "won't-work-on-anything-else" web designs?)

Not many, I would think. Most people don't know how to do that.

I think it's quite respectable that Safari reaches one third the usage share that Mozilla has.

[f1000]

Methodology: A global usage share of xx percent for browser Y means that xx percent of the visitors of Internet users arrived at sites that are using one of OneStat.com’s services by using browser Y.

Mac users probably don't go to sites that use one of OneStat.com’s services.

[absmiths]

Originally posted by f1000:
Methodology: A global usage share of xx percent for browser Y means that xx percent of the visitors of Internet users arrived at sites that are using one of OneStat.com’s services by using browser Y.

If a man lifts three times his own weight to one-half his height, using weights that are each one-tenth of his weight . . . nevermind.

[OwlBoy]

Man, and its no wonder that people exploit IE so much.

-Owl

[mitchell_pgh]

Well, at least it's going in the right direction. All things considered, that's really not that bad considering many Mac users have their own special browsers...

[lookmark]

It'd be interesting to know what percentage of Mac users are still using IE... Certainly all the OS 9 users (still probably about 50% of Mac users). And I still see a rather surprising amount of OS X users still using the damn thing. Old habits die hard.

[mitchell_pgh]

Originally posted by lookmark:
It'd be interesting to know what percentage of Mac users are still using IE... Certainly all the OS 9 users (still probably about 50% of Mac users). And I still see a rather surprising amount of OS X users still using the damn thing. Old habits die hard.

It's funny because I just assume all mac users have switched, but I still get basic OS X questions from OS 9 users at work all the time. It's sad, but many people are on old 7+ year old Macs and are totally out of date with what's going on. They have a printer, their mac and the screen and have been using AOL 4.0 all this time... and are still paying $25 a month...

[nickm]

because of how many Mac users change the user agent to IE6/Win!

I think you all are living in a fantasy world if you think that an appreciable amount of Mac users change their user agent string. Steve Jobs himself says than less than half of Mac users are using Mac OS X! That should give you a new perspective on where you sit on the curve of Mac users. Most people simply don't care.

That said, I think the Google Zeitgeist is probably the best indicator of the Mac marketshare. April's ratings say Mac is 4%, beating Windows 95 and Linux combined. I do wonder about that 3% other, though? What could that be?

[juanvaldes]

paranoid users, probably a good bit are linux/*NIX, then windows and I'm sure mac users are in there as well. Also I bet errors in the algorithm also get clumped in there.

[ghporter]

Originally posted by timmerk:
GHPorter: WebCT works fine for me with Safari.

I'm amazed, but not stunned. It has to be some sort of configuration issue (or maybe a version issue). If you would, send me a private message about what school you're at, what version they say you have, etc., and maybe I can help the school get this straightened out.

Thanks!

[Stuphalina]

"Lies, damn lies, and statistics!"
- Mark Twain