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Krypton · Jun 9, 2004, 10:31 AM

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Cleaned up version of recent nightlies (of which the Mac versions were very buggy). Includes new extension and theme managers, plus built upon Mozilla 1.7 now.

wataru · Jun 9, 2004, 12:42 PM

I switched back to Safari when the nightlies got too buggy, but Firefox is back, baby! It feels much faster than Safari, and they've made a lot of progress on the UI. And, they finally moved the ~/Library/Firefox folder to ~/Library/Application Support/Firefox! Huzzah!

Krypton · Jun 10, 2004, 10:26 AM

The Extensions and Themes UI are a great improvement, but I can't get either to work yet.

NeXTLoop · Jun 10, 2004, 10:29 AM

For those of you trying this build of Firefox, how's it compare to the 0.8 beta of Camino?

Horsepoo!!! · Jun 10, 2004, 10:38 AM

Hehe...does anyone still miss IE on Mac?

Horsepoo!!! · Jun 10, 2004, 10:39 AM

Actually this build doesn't even launch is stuck in an endless launch loop...I don't know what kind of voodoo the Firefox team is up to, but I don't like it.

His Dudeness · Jun 10, 2004, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by Horsepoo!!!:
Hehe...does anyone still miss IE on Mac?

IE for Mac is the worst piece of software that I have ever used. I deleted it loooong time ago.

almaink · Jun 10, 2004, 02:23 PM

I downloaded this and it says it's v0.8.0+ not 0.9 anyway I see a small speed increase but typing answers in forums is still screwed up.

wataru · Jun 10, 2004, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by almaink:
I downloaded this and it says it's v0.8.0+ not 0.9 anyway I see a small speed increase but typing answers in forums is still screwed up.

It's a release candidate, not the final 0.9. And how is "typing answers in forums" screwed up? I'm using it right now with no problems.

F_Elz · Jun 10, 2004, 06:28 PM

I love this version, hope the .9 final is better.

Millennium · Jun 11, 2004, 09:12 AM

I'm having trouble with the Page Up/Page Down keys, which I use pretty heavily for scrolling. Other than that, this is quite a good release.

However, I've never managed to get most extensions to work right, even before this release. Is this some kind of bug that I haven't seen in the Bugzilla notes? I'm particularly interested in the Tabbrowser Extensions, which allow for the close-widget-in-tab model used by Safari.

That said, this release feels quite solid other than that, so far. I hope that after 1.0 is released they'll get to work on the CSS3 nth-child() family of selectors: MSN/OSX is still way ahead of anyone else -even IE5/Windows- in this area, and it's starting to worry me.

banditcosmo · Jun 11, 2004, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by Horsepoo!!!:
Actually this build doesn't even launch is stuck in an endless launch loop...I don't know what kind of voodoo the Firefox team is up to, but I don't like it.

Same thing for me. It keeps trying to launch over and over. I had to restart my Powerbook to stop it from trying to launch.

wataru · Jun 11, 2004, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by Millennium:
However, I've never managed to get most extensions to work right, even before this release. Is this some kind of bug that I haven't seen in the Bugzilla notes? I'm particularly interested in the Tabbrowser Extensions, which allow for the close-widget-in-tab model used by Safari.

A lot of extensions are extremely sensitive to what version of Firefox you're running. I've been running nightly builds for months, and in my experience, if the extension isn't newer than your build, there's a good chance it won't work. With this release it's even worse because recent changes broke all extensions, so you'll have to wait until the one you want is updated again.

Krypton · Jun 11, 2004, 12:45 PM

Originally posted by wataru:
A lot of extensions are extremely sensitive to what version of Firefox you're running. I've been running nightly builds for months, and in my experience, if the extension isn't newer than your build, there's a good chance it won't work. With this release it's even worse because recent changes broke all extensions, so you'll have to wait until the one you want is updated again.

They broke extensions so that all writers would have to rewrite for the new standard.

The latest version of tabbrowser extension seems to work fine with Mac FF btw. However, the one feature I wanted (open external links in new tabs) is greyed out.

F_Elz · Jun 11, 2004, 01:08 PM

I thought MSN/OSX sucked...

Krypton · Jun 11, 2004, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by F_Elz:
I thought MSN/OSX sucked...

He was referring to the MSN Browser - which has a newer rendering engine than the official release of IE for Mac.

Millennium · Jun 11, 2004, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by F_Elz:
I thought MSN/OSX sucked...

As a program and an online service, yes it does.

However, the rendering engine -an updated version of the Tasman engine from IE/Mac- is nothing short of amazing when it comes to standards support. It blows everything else out of the water. Of course, since no one (myself included) wants to pay Microsoft's rental fees for the software, nobody knows about this, and even fewer people test for it.

This is why I think we really need to start pushing the Mozilla, Opera, and Safari teams to start supporting the more advanced CSS selectors. Tasman (the rendering engine) was designed to be portable, and I have a sneaking suspicion that it was pumped up for MSN/OSX in preparation for porting it to Longhorn. When and if that happens, the current crop of standards-compliant browsers are going to be more or less blindsided.