[asagoo]

I've just started using VMware Workstation at my Windows-based workplace, and the benefits for development are tremendous. My physical machine runs XP, but is of course a "dirty" development system and therefore not good for valid testing. In vmware, I have virtual machines running with a clean XP build and with NT4, and I can test my software before deployment.

Does anyone know of a virtual machine software for Mac OS X? I would love to be able to run 10.1 and 10.2 in virtual machines to test my Xcode-developed applications for backward compatibility.

If this doesn't exist, why not? Apple could even develop this themselves ("vMac"?)
This should of course be with little or no performance hit, because it wouldn't need to emulate the CPU. It would use a disk image for the virtual hard drive, a chunk of memory for RAM and it would need to bridge the network adapter, USB and FireWire, etc.

Amar

[Arkham_c]

If you run LinuxPPC, you can do this with Mac-on-Linux:

http://www.maconlinux.org/

Unfortunately you can't run it on OSX.

[Amorya]

Didn't early versions of Classic run in a window? I seem to recall Apple took great pains to make it not behave like a virtual machine...

[Arkham_c]

Originally posted by Amorya:
Didn't early versions of Classic run in a window? I seem to recall Apple took great pains to make it not behave like a virtual machine...

I think maybe in the developer previews, but never in the shipping release.

[blackbird_1.0]

I think it would start up in a small window and then the Classic Menubar would appear whenever a Classic App was active.

[Arkham_c]

Originally posted by blackbird_1.0:
I think it would start up in a small window and then the Classic Menubar would appear whenever a Classic App was active.

That's how it works NOW.

[albook]

I hope I understood you correctly. You want to run Mac OS X as a client on a Windows XP host machine?
If you I am pretty sure PearPC is exactly what your looking for!

Sample screenshot: http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/screenshots/macosx2.jpg

[asagoo]

Originally posted by albook:
I hope I understood you correctly. You want to run Mac OS X as a client on a Windows XP host machine?
If you I am pretty sure PearPC is exactly what your looking for!

No, that's not what I meant. Sorry if I was being unclear.

I have a Mac at home running Mac OS X and I'd like to run virtual Macs inside it. The guest OSes could be anything supported by the hardware, e.g. PPC Linux or older versions of the Mac OS.

This would be different from Classic because the VMs should be completely isolated from the host OS.

Another nice feature in VMware is that you can just suspend those virtual machines and continue using them at a later time without having to boot them again.

Amar

[King Bob On The Cob]

New version of Mac On Linux runs on OS X. Gotta CVS compile it though :-\

[aristotle]

Originally posted by asagoo:
I've just started using VMware Workstation at my Windows-based workplace, and the benefits for development are tremendous. My physical machine runs XP, but is of course a "dirty" development system and therefore not good for valid testing. In vmware, I have virtual machines running with a clean XP build and with NT4, and I can test my software before deployment.

Does anyone know of a virtual machine software for Mac OS X? I would love to be able to run 10.1 and 10.2 in virtual machines to test my Xcode-developed applications for backward compatibility.

If this doesn't exist, why not? Apple could even develop this themselves ("vMac"?)
This should of course be with little or no performance hit, because it wouldn't need to emulate the CPU. It would use a disk image for the virtual hard drive, a chunk of memory for RAM and it would need to bridge the network adapter, USB and FireWire, etc.

Amar

I have a related need. I want to run most applications using OS X on a Powerbook. However, I also have a need to run Engineering Applications that are only available on Windows, E.g. AutoDesk AtuoCad.

Is it possible to partition the disk, run OSX on one partition, and run OSX with Virtual PC on the other partition? I would think that would be possible, but I would like to know if anyone has tried this.

I want to buy a MAC, but I need to have this resolved before I decide.

Thanks

[melman101]

Why do you need two OSX partitions? Virtual PC is just an application for Mac. you can put the hard disk file for VPC on a seperate partition if you wanted, but it won't affect your computer at all i dont believe..


Mel

[Angus_D]

Originally posted by Arkham_c:
I think maybe in the developer previews, but never in the shipping release.

The Blue Box worked like this, and shipped in Mac OS X Server 1.x. The Classic environment was introduced in DP3 IIRC, with the Blue Box going away in DP4 or the PB.

Edit: Actually, I just remembered that Blue Box was full-screen, not windowed.

[spam]

Originally posted by aristotle:
I have a related need. I want to run most applications using OS X on a Powerbook. However, I also have a need to run Engineering Applications that are only available on Windows, E.g. AutoDesk AtuoCad.

Is it possible to partition the disk, run OSX on one partition, and run OSX with Virtual PC on the other partition? I would think that would be possible, but I would like to know if anyone has tried this.

Certainly no need to partition in order to do this. Virtual PC is just an application--it wont cause any problems on your main partition. If you're just worried about having enough space on your Powerbook's hard drive, the Virtual PC "disk" is a file that can easily be stored on an external drive.

The bigger problem will be performance. Virtual PC works quite well for many things, but I believe you'll find it's much to slow to make AutoDesk and AutoCad useable. CAD programs need lots of horsepower, and emulation inevitably involves lots of overhead.