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drainyoo · Jun 17, 2004, 11:38 AM

I noticed that all the GUI widgets like the buttons, form fields, dropdowns, checkboxes and radio buttons are all windows like. It doesnt use any of the AQUA widgets. Is there any way to change them to the Aqua ones?

nooon · Jun 17, 2004, 01:07 PM

No.
Get Camino instead.

Krypton · Jun 17, 2004, 01:12 PM

Aqua widgets will be in Firefox post 1.0

However, bear in mind Aqua widgets mean that web interfaces don't appear as they were intended.

drainyoo · Jun 17, 2004, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by Krypton:
Aqua widgets will be in Firefox post 1.0

However, bear in mind Aqua widgets mean that web interfaces don't appear as they were intended.

I dont care. If I have to see these Windows widgets all then Im going to go nuts!

How are you so sure they will be in version 1.0?

nooon · Jun 17, 2004, 05:07 PM

It says so in the Firefox Roadmap.

drainyoo · Jun 17, 2004, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by nooon:
It says so in the Firefox Roadmap.

Thanks. Will it be done for the July release?

wataru · 09:08 PM

The author of the Firefox theme says he will rerelease the older version as a separate theme that you can install yourself. It will not be the default, though. This should happen in the next few weeks.

Edit: In case you were wondering, no, I didn't read the original post very well. I'm just talking about the theme, not Aqua widgets.

F_Elz · Jun 17, 2004, 07:45 PM

Aqua widgets for styled forms suck, I wanna see how developers styled them, even scrollbars... Opera does all that, and Moz/Fx do the widgets.

AKcrab · Jun 17, 2004, 09:55 PM

Originally posted by Krypton:
However, bear in mind Aqua widgets mean that web interfaces don't appear as they were intended.

I don't understand this. How are web interfaces "intended" to appear? Is there some standard somewhere?

F_Elz · Jun 18, 2004, 12:26 AM

If they were styled the wouldn't look like windows. You can change the look, flat, or no. Even change the colors, etc.

nooon · Jun 18, 2004, 03:00 AM

Originally posted by drainyoo:
Thanks. Will it be done for the July release?

Nah I don't think so. Sometime after that.. Maybe August?

Krypton · Jun 18, 2004, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by AKcrab:
I don't understand this. How are web interfaces "intended" to appear? Is there some standard somewhere?

Those boring looking Windows like form buttons/widgets allow CSS styles to be applied to the buttons themselves.

Play around with the menus on the left hand side at this site, in Firefox and then Safari, and tell me what you notice

OAW · Jun 18, 2004, 11:50 AM

If Firefox get's "Aqua" widgets then there probably won't be much reason to use Camino. Personally, I prefer Firefox's tab implementation over Camino's. If only it would hook into the system wide spell checking in OS X ...

OAW

CharlesS · Jun 18, 2004, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by Krypton:
Play around with the menus on the left hand side at this site, in Firefox and then Safari, and tell me what you notice

I notice that it is no longer obvious that "subscribe" and "search" are buttons, and that the pop-up menus on the left are not as easy to notice.

AKcrab · Jun 18, 2004, 03:47 PM

Originally posted by Krypton:
Those boring looking Windows like form buttons/widgets allow CSS styles to be applied to the buttons themselves.

Play around with the menus on the left hand side at this site, in Firefox and then Safari, and tell me what you notice

Now I understand. However, I'm still not convinced that one is "right" and one is "wrong"... Either way, certainly not a show stopper, is it?

Krypton · Jun 18, 2004, 03:57 PM

Originally posted by AKcrab:
Now I understand. However, I'm still not convinced that one is "right" and one is "wrong"... Either way, certainly not a show stopper, is it?

What is needed is an Aqua widget that can acquire colour hints and shapes from CSS.

The Firefox widgets aren't pretty I admit, but they do allow more control over a website's appearance. My webmail portal looks quite good with the styles applied to buttons.

drainyoo · Jun 18, 2004, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by Krypton:
Those boring looking Windows like form buttons/widgets allow CSS styles to be applied to the buttons themselves.

Play around with the menus on the left hand side at this site, in Firefox and then Safari, and tell me what you notice

Ill take Aqua widgets over CSS styled ones any day.

CharlesS · Jun 18, 2004, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by drainyoo:
Ill take Aqua widgets over CSS styled ones any day.

Ditto.

nooon · Jun 18, 2004, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by CharlesS:
Ditto.

double ditto.

drainyoo · Jun 18, 2004, 10:09 PM

I really hope they come thru and add the Aqua widgets. I really like the browser. Its fast and it has an awesome icon.

F_Elz · Jun 19, 2004, 01:32 AM

I want styled widgets, if they can style widgets with the aqua ones in the futere, i'd like it too.