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Mr Mushroom · Jul 26, 2004, 07:48 PM

I am about to switch to Mac from PC, and am wondering what program I should buy for Web-design, as I need to re-do my website when I get my new Powerbook.

On my PC I used Dreamweaver - is that also the best for Mac?

Any advice would be welcome

Mushroom

cpac · Jul 26, 2004, 08:02 PM

as with the browser things - there are lots of options out there including the standard offerings from Adobe and Macromedia. "Freeway's" a mac only WYSIWYG editor that I've search recommended a lot of places... but what's best really depends on your needs.

PS - As it seems you're just looking to see what's out there - you should check out Versiontracker (or MacUpdate) where you can search for browsers or web design software or pretty much anything else (and can read reviews on those specific programs as well).

fisherKing · Jul 26, 2004, 09:04 PM

dreamweaver is great in osx...
and since you know it, why not stay with it?
should be a pretty easy transition.

and welcome to the macworld.
great place to be (and this is a great forum)

madmacgames · Jul 26, 2004, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by fisherKing:
dreamweaver is great in osx...
and since you know it, why not stay with it?
should be a pretty easy transition.

I completely agree with this. when I switched, I had been using dreamweaver on PC, but heard some good things about some Mac & Mac only apps, so I decided to try them out. In the end, I just went with dreamweaver for Mac since it is what I knew and was comfortable with.

wataru · Jul 26, 2004, 09:20 PM

There's a whole Web Developer forum here that probably has more threads about this topic than you can shake a stick at.

Personally, my tool of choice is SubEthaEdit, but I code entirely by hand and only with XHTML and CSS. If you have other needs then I can't really comment.

nooon · Jul 27, 2004, 05:10 AM

I recommend SubEthaEdit.

Turnpike · Jul 27, 2004, 05:33 AM

Originally posted by wataru:
Personally, my tool of choice is SubEthaEdit, but I code entirely by hand and only with XHTML and CSS. If you have other needs then I can't really comment.

only way to go.

Gavin · Jul 28, 2004, 05:46 AM

As far as I can tell the only thing missing from SubEthaEdit that keeps it from being a bbedit killer is:

1 the zap gremlins function - fixes the invisible crap that comes in from windows text.
and
2 multi-file search and replace.

Once it gets those bbedit is gone forever.

Anybody else find the syntax coloring a little flaky? Ugly too - I rolled my own for html / PHP which is a little more subdued. It also highlights my in-house functions which is totally cool.

I also want project management tools - tabbed windows, file lists, and a decent function dictionary/browser. There is a sweet one for gnome but the editor sucks.

To get back on topic: I'm sure golive and dreamweaver are the same on OSX as win. Download the demos and try them out.
Anyway, once you get into real websites with server side scripting like PHP, or cold fusion the graphical site builder apps don't cut it.

wataru · Jul 28, 2004, 07:51 AM

Are you sure the invisible gremlins from Windows text isn't an encoding issue? Since SubEthaEdit is smart about encodings, you shouldn't get gremlins. Could you point to a test file?

Gavin · Jul 29, 2004, 05:51 AM

Originally posted by wataru:
Since SubEthaEdit is smart about encodings, you shouldn't get gremlins. Could you point to a test file?

Nothing I haven't already fixed

We're not just talking about plain text here. I see stuff that has all kinds of weird delimiters. From proprietary file formats (where I don't have the application but can still scoop out the text) to data exports where the file itself is in one format and the data is a mix of 3 others. Mostly stuff coming over from the pc but also with exports from filemaker have given me trouble.

There are many things you don't know are there - even with show invisibles - that will cause a mysql import to barf.

'zap gremlins' just takes care of it.

the 7-bit ascii thing is also helpful.

wataru · Jul 29, 2004, 07:53 AM

Interesting. I guess I don't find it surprising that it doesn't support improperly formatted plain text.

mishap · Jul 29, 2004, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by Mr Mushroom:
I am about to switch to Mac from PC, and am wondering what program I should buy for Web-design, as I need to re-do my website when I get my new Powerbook.

On my PC I used Dreamweaver - is that also the best for Mac?

Any advice would be welcome

Mushroom

I dont know about you, but my version of MX 2004 came with both windows and mac versions...i would stick with it, but update to version 7.01 (huge improvements)

madmacgames · Jul 29, 2004, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by mishap:
I dont know about you, but my version of MX 2004 came with both windows and mac versions...i would stick with it, but update to version 7.01 (huge improvements)

Yes if you go with MX 2004, you definitely must upgrade to 7.01 because there is a bug/bad code or something in MX 2004 7.00 that causes it to be ungodly slow on OS X. 7.01 fixes this though!