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tavilach · Aug 17, 2004, 08:46 PM

The software that my Mac came with is definitely not optimal. Let me explain:

I have Classic, and I don't want Classic.
I have GraphicConverter and all, and I don't want that.
I don't have Xcode.
I don't have X11.

Does this call for a reinstall of OS X, or can Classic simply be deleted? Can X11 be installed without reinstalling the OS? How?

Thanks

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OptimusG4 · Aug 17, 2004, 09:24 PM

Just delete classic if you dont want it (I'm assuming you mean the System Folder for Mac OS 9 and the Applications folder for OS 9). As for X11, you can download it from Apple's site and install or just pull it off the install CD (#3 I believe).

ambush · Aug 17, 2004, 09:44 PM

look in /Applications/Installers

A consumer computer company won,t install dev tools by default. duh.

tavilach · 12:12 AM

Originally posted by ambush:
look in /Applications/Installers

A consumer computer company won,t install dev tools by default. duh.

Yay! Thanks!

One more question: I heard that some programs are installed when one chooses to install Classic, like GraphicConverter. I don't really want these extra applications, but I also don't want to delete random utilities that really do belong on my computer. It'd be easier to reinstall OS X, and just choose what I want...but that'd be stupid, no? I should just delete these few applications, but I just want to know which ones...

...it's hard to explain my illogical logic.

Edit: I installed the default dev tools, X11 SDK, etc. etc., and it said that it was successful...but I don't see anything new on my system!

Edit: I found Xcode...but no sign of X11

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Edit: I guess X11 isn't installed with the Developer Tools. After using the applications/installers, I also tried the Panther DVD, but updating the developer tools with that didn't produce X11, either. I guess I'll just download it. So much for doing things the right way

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Oh, and that DVD lists the programs that came with the computer, but aren't actually a part of the OS's standard software.

tavilach · Aug 18, 2004, 12:16 AM

Originally posted by OptimusG4:
Just delete classic if you dont want it (I'm assuming you mean the System Folder for Mac OS 9 and the Applications folder for OS 9). As for X11, you can download it from Apple's site and install or just pull it off the install CD (#3 I believe).

Are those two folders the only places for anything dealing with Classic?

proton · Aug 18, 2004, 01:37 AM

Originally posted by tavilach:
Are those two folders the only places for anything dealing with Classic?

They're the only two folders you should touch.

Just trash System Folder and Applications (Mac OS 9) to dispose of Classic. For the other bundled applications, it's the same procedure. Just trash them.

You can install components of OS X that you need by just finding the packages on the Install DVD that came with your Mac.

- proton

tavilach · Aug 18, 2004, 01:39 AM

Originally posted by proton:
They're the only two folders you should touch.

Just trash System Folder and Applications (Mac OS 9) to dispose of Classic. For the other bundled applications, it's the same procedure. Just trash them.

You can install components of OS X that you need by just finding the packages on the Install DVD that came with your Mac.

- proton

They're the only ones I can touch...but is there stuff I can't touch? How do I remove it?

CharlesS · Aug 18, 2004, 02:33 AM

Originally posted by tavilach:
They're the only ones I can touch...but is there stuff I can't touch? How do I remove it?

They're the only ones you should touch - meaning the only ones you should remove.

As for Xcode, it's a good idea to check connect.apple.com for new versions. The buzz is that version 1.5 may be released sometime soon.

eevyl · Aug 18, 2004, 03:14 AM

/Applications/Utilities/X11.app

A simple search on your files would have uncovered that pretty fast. More than checking out this thread and faster than eating an oreo

Angus_D · Aug 18, 2004, 04:26 AM

Originally posted by eevyl:
/Applications/Utilities/X11.app

A simple search on your files would have uncovered that pretty fast. More than checking out this thread and faster than eating an oreo

Uhm, X11User.pkg is an optional install.

As others have said, you can nuke Classic by deleting those folders. There may be other bits of Classic support hidden elsewhere, but they are part of Mac OS X and you should not remove them (they are also likely to be negligible in size, really).

The other apps can safely be deleted in the Finder. If you ever need to re-install them, you should be able to from the Software Restore DVD, which lets you select the individual components (Classic, the applictions, etc).

arekkusu · Aug 18, 2004, 04:28 AM

Xcode 1.5 has been out for a while. It still isn't very good though.

CharlesS · Aug 18, 2004, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by arekkusu:
Xcode 1.5 has been out for a while.

Dammit, you're right. I'd been looking in the "Mac OS X" category, where it still only has the 1.2 version for some reason. Now I feel like a moron... oh well.