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WYSIWYG idea for a cocoa app
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Oct 6, 2004, 11:20 AM
 
Hi. I have asked this a bunch of times over and over again...
So I have took it upon myself to try and build one instead.





It is a quick mock up in Omnigraffle. The idea is to use the pure beifist of CSS layout design instead of old tables. As css builds nice clean site code instead of tables. And it m,akes more sence in code dynamics.

The only two things that would really be needed are the boxes to push each other aside when one were to adjust a handle like Margin.

Please add to this so I can get a better understanding of what would be needed as I am not good at code yet and am fishing more a developer. ^v^
     
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Oct 6, 2004, 12:54 PM
 
So what exactly are you looking for? an app that will covert html tables to something purely css?
     
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Oct 6, 2004, 01:01 PM
 
no, a wysiwyg cocoa app that is built on the power of cocoa and CSS.
I know of dreamweaver but it is costly and slow. I see how cocoa layout apps could be a forefront to building website pages like Macrabbit's cssedit and tacos super fast webkit rendering two things that dreamweaver does not have.

So only thing left is a nice clean drag and drop and free form arrange type of app that uses CSS for layout unlike other programs that use a mess of tables or odd code.
     
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Oct 6, 2004, 01:38 PM
 
I think I sort of see what you are talking about. I think the biggest obstacle in an app like this is going to be how different browsers interpret CSS. What you need is a way to show a div, with all its borders, margins, padding, etc... and then be able to show how IE (Win and Mac) Firefox, Safari, Opera, OmniWeb and so on will render it. Since IE does CSS is a completely... wrong way it'd be hard to have some sort of standard WYSIWYG view of the code you just created. Does that make sense?
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Oct 6, 2004, 02:15 PM
 
Originally posted by fetopher:
I think I sort of see what you are talking about. I think the biggest obstacle in an app like this is going to be how different browsers interpret CSS. What you need is a way to show a div, with all its borders, margins, padding, etc... and then be able to show how IE (Win and Mac) Firefox, Safari, Opera, OmniWeb and so on will render it. Since IE does CSS is a completely... wrong way it'd be hard to have some sort of standard WYSIWYG view of the code you just created. Does that make sense?
Ya I know IE sucks dirt. The tool as I had thought it out is not to have a pure compliant code as that is impossible.

Or two modes, super correct or correct enough and add hacks and tweaks.
That way super correct would use more or less postion absolutes alot for it's layout while correct enough would be something that code could be edited some more or use hacks to make it work and the layout would be smoother liquid systems...

eh still ideas and stuff to work out..
     
   
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