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I think I'm going to finally switch to Firefox for good, after much back and forth between Safari, but I just don't understand something. On so many pages, Firefox does not smooth the fonts. For example, when I finish Slashdot.org, the "4 more" and such under the section headings at the left are not smoothed, and look horrible. This also occurs in the PowerBook forum of MacNN, etc.
There has to be a way to fix this...I've asked about it before, but I'm going to ask again, because there just has to be a way...
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You went into options and activated font smoothing?
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Originally posted by Randman:
You went into options and activated font smoothing?
In System Preferences? Of course.
Does no one else have this problem? Agh!
Edit: Wow. When I set the minimum font size to 11 or 12, the fonts don't really become bigger, except by a little...but they all smooth up. On slashdot, everything looks like same, except smooth (and everything is still scrunched together, but I think that's a Gecko thing). Is this a bad thing to do?
Edit: I changed my mind. Size 11 smoothes it out, but it is a bit too big. I want standard sizes set by the site. My font smoothing setting is for every font above size 4, so I don't get it...
(Last edited by tavilach; Dec 21, 2004 at 06:03 AM.
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Under options in FF, not system-wide via SysPref.
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Firefox uses QuickDraw (with Quartz text smoothing, but that's irrelevant for the issue), it uses QuickDraw to render text. By default and under certain circumstances QuickDraw prefers bitmap fonts over outline fonts if they are available for the size – like it is the case for Geneva 9. QuickDraw can use outline fonts all the time. This is turned on in Camino, but due to a bug only works after all windows are closed. Maybe give Camino a try instead.
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We just had a thread about this. Do a search. In a nutshell, there are certain fonts that shouldn't be antialiased, and the fact that Safari antialiases them is actually a (probably intentional) misbehavior.
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It's not a misbehavior. Quartz is not designed to render non-anti-aliased text.
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