[Spoffo]

I just noticed the following with Safari running under 10.3.7. (It may have been true under 10.3.6, but I don't recall noticing it.)

Say you're working in your files somewhere, and you create a new folder. Then you go to Safari, which is already open, and find something and want to save it to this new folder. The "save as' dialogue comes up and - surprise! - the folder you just created isn't there! The only way I can get to see it in the "save as" is to quit and re-launch Safari, at which point the new folder now appears where I created it in the file structure. Apparently, Safari checks the folder structure only when it launches, and not every time it does an "open" or "save as". (Yup, I just checked, and this problem also occurs with "open" dialogues.)

Has anyone else noticed this?

Two notes that might bear on this:

1. I haven't tried doing a "new folder" inside the Safari "save as" dialogue. Presumably, if I did, Safari would show it (and maybe any other folders that had been added since it was launched.)

2. I normally run Pathfinder, with the Apple Finder turned off. Maybe Safari would see new folders if Finder was running? However, I don't have this problem with any other apps. Word, Photoshop et. al seem to have no problem seeing newly created folders, even when Finder isn't running.


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[banninated68]

Here's another weird bug. If I try to access my router to reconnect to SBC Yahoo (which gets retarded every few hours) I type in the router's IP, and safari just sits there loading. I eventually grow impatient and use internet explorer, and it works instantly, no lag or waiting.

It's a linksys router if it matters, but regardless, it's annoying.

- Ca$h

[Spoffo]

I just did some futher experiments with this, with really odd results . . .

I wanted to see if it had to do with some special level of integration between Safari and Finder, so I launched Finder and tried the same thing: create a new folder, then go to (already open) Safari and see if it shows up in a "save as". Answer, it does. No problem at all.

Hmm. So I guess the "bug" has to do with using Pathfinder instead of Finder. Only problem is that I thought that the actual directory structures are maintained down at some Unix level, and Finder and Pathfinder are just different front ends on this. But then, if that's the case, how could I have the problem in the first place? How could Safari not see a new folder that other apps like Word and Photoshop can?

Second experiment: Quit Finder and see if I can recreate the same misbehavior. With Finder off, create a new Folder in Pathfinder. Now check to see if it shows up in a Safari "save as", expecting that it won't.

Huh? Now that's really odd. The newly-created foldser shows up in Safari just as it always has in other apps.

Time to try it all over again. Be back in a minute

[Spoffo]

OK. I just re-booted, and it's clear that this is not a big-time basic bug. It's one of those obscure ones. From a clean start, Safari behaves itself and sees new folders created in Pathfinder just like any other app.

Apparently, there's a specific sequence of events that makes it temporarily lose this ability. I even suspect that I could re-create it, since I've run into it several times, always in the context of a particular pattern of work-flow.

However, it's a benign bug and I'm not being paid to chase it, so it'll wait for a REALLY slow day.