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Hello all,
that is annoying, suddenly the torrent app, Tomato, is not able to work, if I show it a torrent link it remains all the time trying to get info, well, I got the official torrent client but once I try to open it, it just does 'try' to bounce on the Dock and then it is gone.
I am kinda new to the torrent thingy, but it has worked previously in my computer, nothing new about it, same internet connection, no firewall...
Advice needed. Thanks in advance.
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Well, I'm not positively sure what the problem is ... but you know a number of torrent sites have been shut down in just the last week or so. Maybe the torrents aren't really available any more (if the .torrent files you have are older than that). Also, though I know you've already tried two separate torrent apps, allow me to recommend Azureus to you. I was new to torrent-ing several months ago and tried both Tomato Torrent and the official client ... Azureus really seemed to work better and give much detailed feedback about what was going on. The only drawback is that you always have to go to the menu and do File->Open and browse out to the torrent file you want to run ... there doesn't seem to be a way to make torrent files open with Azureus via double clicking.
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Originally posted by angelmb:
I got the official torrent client but once I try to open it, it just does 'try' to bounce on the Dock and then it is gone.
That sounds like when you're trying the latest version on 10.2. The latest version requires 10.3, the last version for 10.2 is 3.3.
Azureus is OK, but it feels really bloated and it's a bit buggy (at least for me).
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Originally posted by Krusty:
Well, I'm not positively sure what the problem is ... but you know a number of torrent sites have been shut down in just the last week or so. Maybe the torrents aren't really available any more (if the .torrent files you have are older than that).
they shouldn't crash an app. they may have dried up, but i had a bunch of torrentnfiles from before the big shakedown, all of which still worked fine, though some no longer had active seeds.
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Originally posted by Jacke:
That sounds like when you're trying the latest version on 10.2. The latest version requires 10.3, the last version for 10.2 is 3.3.
Azureus is OK, but it feels really bloated and it's a bit buggy (at least for me).
hum, that is not the issue, I am running 10.3.6, I must have said it, excuse me.
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Originally posted by Krusty:
Well, I'm not positively sure what the problem is ... but you know a number of torrent sites have been shut down in just the last week or so. Maybe the torrents aren't really available any more (if the .torrent files you have are older than that). Also, though I know you've already tried two separate torrent apps, allow me to recommend Azureus to you. I was new to torrent-ing several months ago and tried both Tomato Torrent and the official client ... Azureus really seemed to work better and give much detailed feedback about what was going on. The only drawback is that you always have to go to the menu and do File->Open and browse out to the torrent file you want to run ... there doesn't seem to be a way to make torrent files open with Azureus via double clicking.
Thanks, friends can get the torrent file I can not, and they use Tomato, I am going to give Azureus a try, but well... I am not very optimist 
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Sounds weird, maybe it's a corrupt preference file...
Try trashing (or just moving) the Tomato Torrent prefs and see what happens. I think the pref file is called "net.sarwat.BitTorrent.plist" (not sure, I tried it some time ago but deleted it, the file does contain a mention of Tomato Torrent).
The preferences files are located in Home/Library/Preferences.
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Try running Console.app (in /Applications/Utilities) while you try to launch Tomato. It may spit out a useful error message.
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I deleted the preference file, you got the right name  but that does not solve the issue, so I opened the Console to check if there was helpful info, I can read once and again this text:
"CinematicBook /Applications/Utilities/Tomato Torrent.app/Contents/MacOS/Tomato Torrent: pid 735 stderr: couldn't exec /usr/bin/python"
and something similar goes with the official BitTorrent client, this is shown in the Console:
"dyld: /Applications/Utilities/BitTorrent.app/Contents/MacOS/BitTorrent can't open library: /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/Python (No such file or directory, errno = 2)
Dec 27 21:39:12 CinematicBook crashdump: Unable to determine CPSProcessSerNum pid: 747 name: BitTorrent"
A 'python' search (cmd+F) gives me no results. Could be that the issue?
Thanks again for your advice and time 
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Did you check /System/Library/Frameworks/ for the python frameworks? It's part of the default install of 10.3.
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Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
they shouldn't crash an app. they may have dried up, but i had a bunch of torrentnfiles from before the big shakedown, all of which still worked fine, though some no longer had active seeds.
true .. I was more responding to his issue with Tomato torrent hanging on getting info. Not sure what is crashing the official client for him.
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Originally posted by bmedina:
Did you check /System/Library/Frameworks/ for the python frameworks? It's part of the default install of 10.3.
Yes, it was only something like 500kb while my PowerMac has a 44 MB folder, so I copy it on the PowerBook.
Tomato remains acting weird but BitTorrent does start at least. I fear the improvement finishes there  New Console.app message:
sh: line 1: /usr/bin/python: No such file or directory
2004-12-28 11:28:33.171 Tomato Torrent[433] agent thread not shutting down after 10 seconds!
2004-12-28 11:29:38.951 BitTorrent[440] *** NSThread: ignoring exception 'OC_PythonException' (reason 'exceptions.ValueError: ') that raised during delayed perform of target 0x50b300 and selector 'otorrent'
I am going to try it on the PowerMac and see what happens.
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This is slightly off-topic, but could someone tell me the default port that Azureus is supporse to listen for? It was 6770 or something?
Thanks. 
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Looks like you're missing the /usr/bin/python file, too. You should be able to copy it from another computer, but it's hidden in the Finder by default. You can do it easily from the Terminal, if you're familiar with that. Post back if you need help.
As to the port bittorrent needs, see here: http://btfaq.com/serve/cache/25.html . You'll want ports 6881-6999 open to your computer.
(Last edited by bmedina; Dec 28, 2004 at 05:01 PM.
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Originally posted by blackbird_1.0:
This is slightly off-topic, but could someone tell me the default port that Azureus is supporse to listen for? It was 6770 or something?
Thanks.
My install of Azureus uses 6881 (which I assume is the default .. I've not changed it)
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Originally posted by Krusty:
My install of Azureus uses 6881 (which I assume is the default .. I've not changed it)
OK. Thanks. 
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