[NordicMan]

I read an article by David Coursey, where he reviews the various Mac products. He talks about iWork, and Pages, comparing to Word in Office. It sounds like he will want Pages.

Then he writes how Apple has managed to alienate Adobe, measured by the fact that they stopped making Premiere, and that Atmosphere has not appeared for the Mac platform.

But Chizen in 2003 spoke of how Apple and Adobe had a good relationship, agreeing to disagree, and being like a marriage, with ups and downs. The people you talk to at Adobe are friendly enough, but then they are not making decisions about what software gets made for whom.

So what does any one here know about the course of things? One of the Ars Technica writers asked Adobe about whether Photoshop will be able to address more than 2 GB of RAM in the near future, but the representative of Adobe at MacWorld was not able to answer that question.

[Superchicken]

I dono, I do know that Apple showed with iPhoto '05 and with iWork that they're more than willing to pick up the slack of major devs take off... I don't know how much of a good thing that is... I think Adobe and Apple have a fairly good relationship. I don't think Adobe wants to abandon a large chunk of cash by screwing with their Mac products. After all if a new Mac only design App comes out that uses all of the great OS X features available Adobe will be a bit screwed on this side.

[NordicMan]

I hope that Adobe is willing to develop for Apple. Many of their programmes have dropped off support, like FrameMaker, due to the fact that sales were low. It is understandable if something is not selling that a company takes a look at it. About 2000 people signed off on willingness to purchase the next issue, for Mac OS X, of that software. It has been discontinued by Adobe, although the word for a while was that Adobe management was listening still. They should sell FrameMaker to someone if they do not want to upgrade it. Apple's online documentation, I believe, is in FrameMaker files. It did not originate with Adobe.

Adobe produces some good products, so I hope there is peace and product between the two, which have an historic relationship in DTP.

It is not so much Apple's desire to have photoshop and elements and indesign, and illustrator, or after effects that one wonders about, but whether Adobe likes to develop for two platforms.

We shall see.

[Randman]

Any two big companies such as Apple and Adobe are bound to have differences. But the bottomline is, as always, money: If there's money to be made, even enemies can work together. Heck, look at M$ and Apple. M$ has always supported the Mac platform, to a degree. Mostly for its own profit and support but still.
And one can make a solid argument that Office 2004 for the Mac is superior than any other version of Office, even on the peecee side.

[NordicMan]

Yes, Randman, you are right, I agree about the monies. I was concerned about this subject when Chizen was making various comments, and still wonder. I wish Adobe would make up their minds about FrameMaker.

Anyway, I was just reading on ThinkSecret some notes that were collected by Mr. 'de Plume'. There will be a Creative Suite 2.0, to be released later this year. According to ThinkSecret's notes, Photoshop CS 2(or ps 9) will not feature 64 bit support, but lays some groundwork for that which will presumably arrive with Photoshop 10. Version 10 is also supposed to be able to use more than 2 GB of RAM.

It also is rumoured to reuire stricter product activation than previous Adobe products.

Illustrator will have various new features, and better performance, too, these things are enumerated on ThinkSecret.

Since the site seems to get some good information, it is some assurance to people concerned about this.

[CreepingDeth]

Originally posted by NordicMan:
Yes, Randman, you are right, I agree about the monies. I was concerned about this subject when Chizen was making various comments, and still wonder. I wish Adobe would make up their minds about FrameMaker.

Anyway, I was just reading on ThinkSecret some notes that were collected by Mr. 'de Plume'. There will be a Creative Suite 2.0, to be released later this year. According to ThinkSecret's notes, Photoshop CS 2(or ps 9) will not feature 64 bit support, but lays some groundwork for that which will presumably arrive with Photoshop 10. Version 10 is also supposed to be able to use more than 2 GB of RAM.

It also is rumoured to reuire stricter product activation than previous Adobe products.

Illustrator will have various new features, and better performance, too, these things are enumerated on ThinkSecret.

Since the site seems to get some good information, it is some assurance to people concerned about this.

No announcements. A casual search for "CS 2.0" yields the TS report at the top. Adobe needs to speak soon, cause I'm getting really impatient. And if they want me to buy it, they damn well better have a way to make Filter Gallery combinations.