[Eug Wanker]

iCalc - Trademark serial number 78596181. Check out www.MacOSXRumors.com (not MOSR).

[jyunderwood]

I'm hoping that's just a protective trademark because I think iCalc is too close to iCal. Calculator seems better. even that graphulator or whatever it was seems a bit better to me.

As far as a Spreadsheet app goes... Sheets is a good name. people use Spreadsheets for more than just book keeping. some business and people use it for small databases of other things than numbers.

[ManOfSteal]

I'll be shocked if this name ever sees the light of day...

[Superchicken]

I can't see this being the future spreadsheet App name... that said I don't think they'd call it Sheets either... Cells perhaps...

[midwinter]

Heh. Or "Fuzzy Math."

[Eug Wanker]

I think "iCalc" is a fine name for a spreadsheet. iCal is a bit too close I guess, but if we ignore that, "iCalc" is OK.

Anyways, even if "iCalc" never gets used, Apple WILL be creating a new spreadsheet for iWork. That's the next step in is evolution, and I expect to see it by next January.

In the meantime, I hope Pages gets a few tweaks, not the least of which are with its speed.

[Fusion]

If Apple does add a spreadsheet to iWork, I would expect them to follow the same naming scheme they are already using and call it something like "Spreadsheet."

None of the other iWork apps start with the "i" and it would look pretty silly if just one did.

[Gee4orce]

erm - surely this is just the name for the graphing calculator that's already been widely reported as new in Tiger ?

[Eug Wanker]

Originally posted by Fusion:
If Apple does add a spreadsheet to iWork, I would expect them to follow the same naming scheme they are already using and call it something like "Spreadsheet."

IMO, "Spreadsheet" sounds lame. iCalc sounds better.

None of the other iWork apps start with the "i" and it would look pretty silly if just one did.

That hasn't stopped Apple before. eg. In iLife, all began with "i", but then Apple added GarageBand. Yet nobody cares.

Originally posted by Gee4orce:
erm - surely this is just the name for the graphing calculator that's already been widely reported as new in Tiger ?

Could be, but Apple also trademarked "Graphulator", which obviously is aimed that graphing calculator. Personally, I like iCalc better, and agree that it might be a better name for a calculator than a spreadsheet.

[Will V.]

Originally posted by Fusion:
If Apple does add a spreadsheet to iWork, I would expect them to follow the same naming scheme they are already using and call it something like "Spreadsheet."

I heard the next generation of Apple machines will be marketed under the marketing catchphrase, "Computer"...

[Millennium]

It makes sense for Apple to be working on a spreadsheet app. They need such an app, among others, if iWork is ever to be a suitable replacement for AppleWorks. They've got the Word Processing and Presentation modules now (Pages and Keynote), but they still need Database, Draw, Paint, and Spreadsheet modules. The Database module could probably be done as little more than a thin wrapper around CoreData, but that leaves the last three.

That said, I see two reasons why "iCalc" is not likely to be the name for such an app. As others have already noted, it is way too close to "iCal". However, there is another reason which I think is more telling: so far, none of the iWork apps have actually followed the "iSomething" pattern even though the iWork suite itself does. I don't think Apple is likely to break that pattern now.

Of course, I can't really see any "iCalc" going into the iLife suite either, which is geared more towards recreational users. Although I don't doubt there are people who use spreadsheets for fun, I have no clue how they'd go about it. That's why I think this is probably just a protective trademark for iCal, as jyunderwood suggests.

[dru]

Figures? Ledger? Numbers? HowToCountStevesBillions? Numerics? Numerals?

[Eug Wanker]

Originally posted by Millennium:
It makes sense for Apple to be working on a spreadsheet app. They need such an app, among others, if iWork is ever to be a suitable replacement for AppleWorks. They've got the Word Processing and Presentation modules now (Pages and Keynote), but they still need Database, Draw, Paint, and Spreadsheet modules. The Database module could probably be done as little more than a thin wrapper around CoreData, but that leaves the last three.

Yes, a database built around Core Data seems appropriate. I don't see a pressing need for Draw and Paint though, to be honest. If it does come, they could simply be combined too.

However, there is another reason which I think is more telling: so far, none of the iWork apps have actually followed the "iSomething" pattern even though the iWork suite itself does. I don't think Apple is likely to break that pattern now.

See above. They broke the naming pattern with iLife's GarageBand. (I was expecting something like iCompose.) They broke the UI rules with all sorts of Apple apps. Etc.

Of course, I can't really see any "iCalc" going into the iLife suite either, which is geared more towards recreational users. Although I don't doubt there are people who use spreadsheets for fun, I have no clue how they'd go about it. That's why I think this is probably just a protective trademark for iCal, as jyunderwood suggests.

??? iCalc =! iCal.

Anyways, "iCal" was already trademarked a long time ago.

[f1000]

Reminds me of another spreadsheet program called VisiCalc.

[brapper]

I bet they call it Grids.

[Eug Wanker]

Originally posted by f1000:
Reminds me of another spreadsheet program called VisiCalc.

Yup. Exactly what I was thinking when I first saw "iCalc".

For those who don't know, VisiCalc is arguably THE application that made Apple into the company it is today.

[Superchicken]

What about just Calc?

Nah that sounds dumb... that said I still think pages should be re-named Manuscript fits a LOT better with Keynote. That said iWork is named that to feed off the success of iLife. That said, I don't know if we'll see Paint or Draw apps, though likely it'd be one app. Cause I am not sure how willing Apple is to piss off Adobe. That said I think if Apple does come out with a Paint app they'd better do an amazing job on it, cause Photoshop Elements will almost certainly be discontinued on the platform if they do. Though I do find it funny that Apple originally approached Adobe to write the iApps.

[Millennium]

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
For those who don't know, VisiCalc is arguably THE application that made Apple into the company it is today.

True, but the problem is that most people today aren't "in the know". The iCalc name could be a powerful marketing tool to those of us who have been following computers for years, but most people won't be able to make that connection, and the name won't have any special meaning for them.

[The Godfather]

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
IMO, "Spreadsheet" sounds lame. iCalc sounds better.

"Spreads" sounds a lot better

[Shades of Gray]

Originally posted by Superchicken:
What about just Calc?

Nah that sounds dumb...

It's also already used by Mariner, as in Mariner Calc.

[Millennium]

I'm thinking that it will be named something along the lines of "Numbers", "Ledger", or possibly "Figures". The first and last deal with the stuff the spreadsheet works with, while the last is what the first spreadsheets were designed to emulate.

[f1000]

Matrices

[JHromadka]

Originally posted by Superchicken:
I can't see this being the future spreadsheet App name... that said I don't think they'd call it Sheets either... Cells perhaps...

That would be awesome. "Did you get Apple's Sheets yet?" "No, but peaches do it to me every time."

[mitchell_pgh]

"Don't worry boss, Dave gave me the Sheets"

[midwinter]

Originally posted by Millennium:
I'm thinking that it will be named something along the lines of "Numbers", "Ledger", or possibly "Figures". The first and last deal with the stuff the spreadsheet works with, while the last is what the first spreadsheets were designed to emulate.

Heh. iFigures.

[WizOSX]

Or-- how about-- iCalculatin' ??

[midwinter]

Originally posted by WizOSX:
Or-- how about-- iCalculatin' ??

iBetchaThisAddsUpTo....

[jamil5454]

iMasturbate.

[midwinter]

iBetYouCan'tGuessWhatNumberI'mThinkingOf!!

[theolein]

Originally posted by Superchicken:
What about just Calc?

Nah that sounds dumb... that said I still think pages should be re-named Manuscript fits a LOT better with Keynote. That said iWork is named that to feed off the success of iLife. That said, I don't know if we'll see Paint or Draw apps, though likely it'd be one app. Cause I am not sure how willing Apple is to piss off Adobe. That said I think if Apple does come out with a Paint app they'd better do an amazing job on it, cause Photoshop Elements will almost certainly be discontinued on the platform if they do. Though I do find it funny that Apple originally approached Adobe to write the iApps.

Yup, while Apple will probably want to make a complete AppleWorks replacement with iWork, I'm also not too sure about how much they will do to provoke Adobe, who are one step away from Microsoft in terms of monopolist behaviour. PSElements is a really excellent app for basic editing and it would be a shame if Adobe dropped it for OSX in a sulky huff because Apple came up with some two bit and slow Draw or Paint thing. On the other hand, Adobe's behaviour with repsect to competition is really pityful, and although the competition on Windows is much greater, they wouldn't dare drop Elements there.

Perhaps Apple can simply come up with a deal to bundle PS Elements on the iSeries of Macs instead.

[GORDYmac]

Let's see, in iWork, we have Keynote (note: no "i") and Pages (note: no "i"). I think Apple is offering up these two products as a competitor to Office in the long term. The "i" products are more consumer oriented--though "iWork" kinda screws that whole line of thinking up. Sheets or Cells are more viable names IMHO.

Maybe iCalc is the next version of Calculator?