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iTunes 4.9 - Chapter Support!
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Jun 28, 2005, 10:59 AM
 
It looks like chapter support is now roughly implemented in 4.9. You can see it in action by subscribing to the iTunes New Music Tuesdays podcast. I also made a sample chaptered piece here:

Concerto No. 5 in C

(Note the chapter options that appear, in all their ugly glory, to the left of the display at the top of the iTunes interface.)

The utility I used is located here: http://homepage.mac.com/applepodcast..._tool_beta.dmg

So how feasible is it to use this utility to group live shows together? Or sections of a classical piece (as I've done)? Or chapters in an audiobook? This doesn't seem to have to be Podcast-based. Will a better GUI wrapper be written so that I don't have to tediously make these .XML files and run the Terminal?
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Jun 28, 2005, 11:25 AM
 
Chapter support for audiobooks has been there for awhile.

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Jun 28, 2005, 11:33 AM
 
Originally Posted by Randman
Chapter support for audiobooks has been there for awhile.
Cool, I've never downloaded audiobooks, I've only had them on CD. Have we always had access to chapter creation? Is there a GUI wrapper already available for this command prompt app?
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Jun 28, 2005, 11:58 AM
 
None of my Audio books from Audible have it...

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Jun 28, 2005, 12:05 PM
 
Anyone know how difficult it would be to make a GUI wrapper for this process?

It would be nice to drag a few tracks (AIFF or CD Audio) into an interface, title each—and then poof, it would encode it into one AAC track with the chapter divisions automatically detected (without bothering with clumsy XML and figuring out times, etc.).
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Jun 28, 2005, 12:06 PM
 
Actually, I think if you rip an audiobook, you have to make it bookmarkable. For purchased books from the iTMS or audible.com, it comes standard.

Malcom Adams' applescript page for iTunes has free scripts that will do this for you.

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Jun 28, 2005, 12:09 PM
 
The Colour of Magic (Discworld #1, Unabridged) 6:55:43 Terry Pratchett Audiobook
Artemis Fowl (Unabridged) 6:07:04 Eoin Colfer Audiobook
The Light Fantastic 6:54:41 Terry Pratchett Audiobook
The Arctic Incident (Unabridged) 6:09:36 Eoin Colfer Audiobook


None of those have chapters for me. all in .aa format from audible.

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Jun 28, 2005, 12:20 PM
 
Originally Posted by Randman
Actually, I think if you rip an audiobook, you have to make it bookmarkable. For purchased books from the iTMS or audible.com, it comes standard.
I think it depends on the one you're buying...looks like not all Audiobooks have such divisions.

Malcom Adams' applescript page for iTunes has free scripts that will do this for you.
The closest I could find that would do this was "Track Splicer"...which did not add chapters. If you can point me in the right direction, please do.
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Jun 28, 2005, 12:49 PM
 
Originally Posted by Stradlater
I think it depends on the one you're buying...looks like not all Audiobooks have such divisions.

The closest I could find that would do this was "Track Splicer"...which did not add chapters. If you can point me in the right direction, please do.
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ipodlounge article on audiobooks.

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Jun 28, 2005, 12:53 PM
 
Originally Posted by Randman
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ipodlounge article on audiobooks.
No...that's "make bookmarkable," which is completely different than chapters.

A bookmark is placed so that the track resumes wherever you left off when last listening.

With chapters, you can divide a track into multiple pieces, title each, thus eliminating gaps in live performances and classical pieces.

The file I provided in the first post of the thread, by the way, has 3 "chapters" but is NOT bookmarkable.
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Jun 28, 2005, 01:19 PM
 
You are completely right, the feature is very cool and implemented in about the ugliest way possible.
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Jun 28, 2005, 01:32 PM
 
Doesn't the iPodlounge article address your wish?

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Jun 28, 2005, 02:17 PM
 
Originally Posted by Randman
Doesn't the iPodlounge article address your wish?
No, it does not.

It groups "chapters" (that would be separate tracks) together into one big bookmarkable track—sans chapters.

Maybe I wasn't clear enough...do you understand what I meant by the difference between "bookmarkable" and "chapters"? They are completely separate things.

The file I uploaded: not bookmarkable, chaptered.
The iTunes New Music Podcast: bookmarkable, chaptered.
The examples you gave make: bookmarkable, unchaptered.
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Jun 28, 2005, 02:19 PM
 
My bad. Sorry then.

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