Welcome to the MacNN Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

You are here: MacNN Forums > Software - Troubleshooting and Discussion > Applications > Set it and forget it back-up utility?

Set it and forget it back-up utility?
Thread Tools
Mac Elite
Join Date: Oct 2000
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Nov 26, 2005, 04:43 AM
 
Can anyone recommend a simple set it and forget it scheduled incremental back-up utility?

I want to back-up the contents of selected folders - i.e. my Home folder and various additional drives to an external FireWire drive, only writing the files that have changed since the previous backup.

I'd be particularly impressed if the utility could unmount and spin-down this drive after back-up.

Any thoughts?
     
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Automatic
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Nov 26, 2005, 05:27 AM
 


"That plane's dustin' crops where there ain't no crops."
     
Dedicated MacNNer
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Badfort
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Nov 26, 2005, 05:47 AM
 
Just remember that a backup you never check may well be worthless when you need it most. I keep meaning to print up some t-shirts with "Your backup is only as good as your last restore" to hand out to clients who don't bother with a backup policy. BRU LE will let you script mount and unmount events if you can deal with a bit of work in the shell.
You see, my friends, pirates are the key. - thalo
     
Fresh-Faced Recruit
Join Date: Nov 2005
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Nov 26, 2005, 08:38 AM
 
Originally Posted by booboo
Can anyone recommend a simple set it and forget it scheduled incremental back-up utility?
I want to back-up the contents of selected folders - i.e. my Home folder and various additional drives to an external FireWire drive, only writing the files that have changed since the previous backup.
I'd be particularly impressed if the utility could unmount and spin-down this drive after back-up.
I use PsyncX it does the scheduled incremental copies with a simple GUI to set the sources and targets. It won't unmount the drive but as it uses /etc/crontab for scheduling you can place mount/unmount commands into the crontab manually. You need admin rights to use this method.
     
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: The Sar Chasm
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Nov 26, 2005, 10:06 AM
 
Deja Vu and Carbon Copy Cloner can both also be automated. CCC will only work with folders at the root level, though. Deja Vu has a decent interface and you can dig down into directories to select the folder to back up, but it's a lot slower for some reason.

When a true genius appears in the world you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. -- Jonathan Swift.
     
Mac Elite
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: in front of the keyboard
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Nov 26, 2005, 10:25 AM
 
I use the Ronco Easy Bake Backup Oven.

My backups come out perfectly baked in half the time!!!
signatures are a waste of bandwidth
especially ones with political tripe in them.
     
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: The Sar Chasm
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Nov 26, 2005, 01:18 PM
 
Originally Posted by Kristoff
I use the Ronco Easy Bake Backup Oven.

My backups come out perfectly baked in half the time!!!
Data-transfer rates with that thing have to be awful. It only turns at maybe 8 or 10 rpm.

When a true genius appears in the world you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. -- Jonathan Swift.
     
Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Nov 26, 2005, 04:32 PM
 
Check out Synchonize! X Plus from Qdea.

I've been using this for a year and it does everything a good backup tool should do, including unmount the drive on completion of the script. The inteface is pretty straight foward and the tech support is awesome. You can check out the demo for a limited number of files.

They also offer a Pro version, but I didn't think the extra features were worth the price.

Best of luck to ya!
     
booboo  (op)
Mac Elite
Join Date: Oct 2000
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Nov 26, 2005, 08:19 PM
 
Thank you all for your suggestions. I'm checking 'em out . . .
     
Professional Poster
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Between Sydney and Melbourne
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Nov 27, 2005, 02:25 AM
 
I use apple backup to write incremental weekly backups to an external hard drive.
It works fantastically and completely transparently, only updating what's changed.
     
Dedicated MacNNer
Join Date: Nov 2005
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Nov 27, 2005, 02:56 PM
 
Here is a command that will grab all the files changed in the last day and put them in a tar file on an external hard drive with a volume name of "LACIE." I added some restrictions on the find command to exclude directories that contain swap files and hot system files that would be locked anyway (and cause tar to fail).

This should be run from the root directory with an administrator ID:

cd /

sudo find / -ctime 1 -and -type f -and ! \( -path '/Volumes*' -or -path '/private*' -or -path '*Caches*' -or -path '/dev*' -or -path '/Library*' \)|sed -e 's/ /\\ /g' -e "s/'/\\\'/g" -e 's/"/\\"/g'|xargs tar -ignore-failed-read -rf /Volumes/LACIE/tartest1.tar -C /

Part of the command calls the "sed" program, which is a Stream EDitor that can replace embedded spaces in a filename with an escape sequence that tar understands. In other words, an embedded space is converted to "\ " (a slash and a space). I also converted single and double quotes, but if you have other odd characters in a filename, it may cause a problem for tar (I knew a guy who created a filename with an embedded star on an HP-UX machine).

The xargs program takes the list of filenames found by the "find" command and gives them to tar as a list of arguments so that tar can tar them.

As an earlier poster noted, your backup is only as good as your last restore, so practice restoring from your files. Another note is that I did not zip my tar file, and I didn't do that since it is a pain to scan the zipped tar files when you want to find a filename. If you want to zip the big tar files, you may also want to copy the find command that you used, and create an index file that contains all the files that you tared. I mini version of this would be:

find / -ctime 1|xargs ls -al >/Volumes/LACIE/Index1.txt

(except you would use the same "find" criteria that you used in the tar command)

You can put all of this in a script and append the date to the filenames; it would look something like this (inside a shell script file):

date=`date '+%Y%m%d'`
Fname="/Volumes/LACIE/ArchiveDaily$date"".tar"

and then you can use the Fname variable later:

tar -cf $Fname (other_options_go_here)

Also note that you may want to use a program called xtar by a company called Helios. This will save more of the extended file information that is used in the Mac OS X gui (like file colors). As I posted earlier today, I seem to need DiskWarrior to restore those colors, but this is probably not a big deal anyway.
     
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: ~/
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Nov 27, 2005, 04:30 PM
 
I also use Apple's Backup 3.01. I'm a .mac subscriber, so it works pretty well for me.
Backs up smaller items like my Address Book, iCals, Sticky Notes, Keychains, Safari bookmarks and a few misc. files to my iDisk, and backs up my whole home folder to an external drive, both nightly. When my external gets low on space (about every two months), I save out any particularly important files to a couple 8.5GB DVD+R/DL, then clear out the incremental backups on my external drive and start over.
     
Dedicated MacNNer
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Ontario, Canada
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Nov 28, 2005, 09:22 AM
 
Is there any clone app that will create ISO images for permanent archival?

I keep a "live" backup on an external Firewire drive but I would really like to make a permanent copy every month as well.
     
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Yokohama, Japan
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Nov 28, 2005, 10:12 AM
 
I use my own iPodBackup. You can use it with any kind of disk, not just an iPod.
     
Posting Junkie
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Nov 29, 2005, 06:43 AM
 
Originally Posted by Cadaver
I also use Apple's Backup 3.01. I'm a .mac subscriber, so it works pretty well for me.
Backs up smaller items like my Address Book, iCals, Sticky Notes, Keychains, Safari bookmarks and a few misc. files to my iDisk, and backs up my whole home folder to an external drive, both nightly. When my external gets low on space (about every two months), I save out any particularly important files to a couple 8.5GB DVD+R/DL, then clear out the incremental backups on my external drive and start over.
What he said. I also send my purchased music to my iDisk after losing a few albums worth in a harddisk crash.

[ fb ] [ flickr ] [] [scl] [ last ] [ plaxo ]
     
Mac Elite
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: suburban Chicago
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Nov 29, 2005, 09:05 AM
 
I use BounceBack, which came originally with an ABS external drive and which I then also got with an external Seagate Drive. It reminds you when you haven't done a backup in a week and you can set up certain "sets," such as a full backup, or maybe just a couple folders.

I also use chronosync for syncing my laptop and desktop -- that's what I use it for but I believe it also does just normal backups.
     
   
Thread Tools
Forum Links
Forum Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Top
Privacy Policy
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:58 PM.
All contents of these forums © 1995-2011 MacNN. All rights reserved.
Branding + Design: www.gesamtbild.com
vBulletin v.3.8.7 © 2000-2011, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2