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ptselles · Dec 10, 2005, 01:38 PM

I have a Mac mini with a Superdive and Toast 7.

I am trying to rip a DVD using Mac The Ripper, but everytime I choose the TV_VEDIO file, Toast says that the file is encrypted. What should I do?

wataru · Dec 10, 2005, 01:40 PM

Find a tool to decrypt it.

ptselles · Dec 10, 2005, 02:13 PM

What tool should be used?

Person Man · Dec 11, 2005, 10:12 AM

MacTheRipper (MTR) will decrypt the DVD as it rips.

We need more information. What version of MTR? What DVD are you trying to rip? Is the region of the DVD different from the one the drive is set to?

For example, the new laptop DVD-R drives made by Matsushita (which are used in the mini) force reading of the region code from a DVD all the time, so that you can't use MacTheRipper or VLC to bypass region restrictions, without using a region code switch on the drive.

wataru · Dec 11, 2005, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by Person Man

For example, the new laptop DVD-R drives made by Matsushita (which are used in the mini) force reading of the region code from a DVD all the time, so that you can't use MacTheRipper or VLC to bypass region restrictions, without using a region code switch on the drive.

Really? That's evil! Which Apple laptops are those drives used in?

tooki · Dec 11, 2005, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Person Man

For example, the new laptop DVD-R drives made by Matsushita (which are used in the mini) force reading of the region code from a DVD all the time, so that you can't use MacTheRipper or VLC to bypass region restrictions, without using a region code switch on the drive.

That's not how DVD region coding works.

The drive can't stop a program from reading the encrypted data. VLC et al don't need the decryption key off the disc (that's the only part the drive has control over), they have the keys already.

tooki

ptselles · Dec 11, 2005, 01:58 PM

What can I do? Would a different version of MTR work? I have a MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-845 drive.

Person Man · Dec 11, 2005, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by tooki

That's not how DVD region coding works.

The drive can't stop a program from reading the encrypted data. VLC et al don't need the decryption key off the disc (that's the only part the drive has control over), they have the keys already.

tooki

Nope. The newer Matsushita drives really do force a reading of the region code all the time.

Person Man · Dec 11, 2005, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by ptselles

What can I do? Would a different version of MTR work? I have a MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-845 drive.

Are you trying to rip a DVD from a different region from what the drive is set to? If you are, then a different version of MTR won't help.

ptselles · Dec 11, 2005, 04:17 PM

How do I found out what region my drive is set to? I am using MTR 2.6.6.

P · Dec 11, 2005, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by tooki

That's not how DVD region coding works.

The drive can't stop a program from reading the encrypted data. VLC et al don't need the decryption key off the disc (that's the only part the drive has control over), they have the keys already.

tooki

But to do that, they have to read the DVD as a data disc. Some DVD players refuse to supply raw data from a disc unless the region code matches, and VLC will fail if that happens:

http://www.videolan.org/doc/faq/en/index.html#id278509

My iMac G5 is like that, and I haven't got around to flashing the thing yet (I have a region-free settop player) so VLC will refuse to play Region 1 discs since it's set to Region 2.

ptselles · Dec 11, 2005, 05:29 PM

It sounds like I would need to get an external drive. Would an external drive solve the problem?

Mastrap · Dec 11, 2005, 06:15 PM

Maybe try handbrake and see what that does?

Kenneth · Dec 11, 2005, 09:33 PM

Most current SONY DVDs (such as Hitch and Stealth) ain't MTR 2.6.6 friendly due to the ARccOS protection. However, I found the DVD Decrypter on my dad's PC can handle them.

far200 · Dec 11, 2005, 11:48 PM

I sometimes use dvd2onex to rip shrink and burn my dvd's...... try it if you still can't get MTR to work.

www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/11518

legacyb4 · Dec 12, 2005, 08:28 AM

ARccOS... evil <shudder>

Originally Posted by Kenneth

ARccOS

tooki · Dec 12, 2005, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by P

But to do that, they have to read the DVD as a data disc. Some DVD players refuse to supply raw data from a disc unless the region code matches, and VLC will fail if that happens:

http://www.videolan.org/doc/faq/en/index.html#id278509

My iMac G5 is like that, and I haven't got around to flashing the thing yet (I have a region-free settop player) so VLC will refuse to play Region 1 discs since it's set to Region 2.

Well that's crappy. Stupid content providers... grr...

tooki

Person Man · Dec 12, 2005, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by tooki

Well that's crappy. Stupid content providers... grr...

tooki

I don't think it's the content providers. It's Matsushita. Most of the other drive makers aren't forcing a read of the region code before allowing a disk to be accessed as data.

If it were the content providers, all newer drives would be doing it, I would think.

At least the newer formats won't have region restrictions, if the rumors are to be believed.