Welcome to the MacNN Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

You are here: MacNN Forums > Software - Troubleshooting and Discussion > Applications > Removing NSA's Cookies

Removing NSA's Cookies
Thread Tools
Mac Enthusiast
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Georgetown, TX USA
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Dec 30, 2005, 07:36 AM
 
According to the AP: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051229/...agency_privacy

"The National Security Agency's Internet site has been placing files on visitors' computers that can track their Web surfing activity despite strict federal rules banning most of them..."

I am not interested in starting a discussion re the propriety, efficacy, morality, or legitimacy of the act, but merely in removing the cookies.

I just wanna know the names of the cookies so I may remove them (without deleting all cookies due to expire in 2035).
Harv
27" i7 iMac, 10.7.4
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. ~Voltaire
     
Professional Poster
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Boston
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Dec 30, 2005, 08:15 AM
 
AFAIK the cookies were placed there by visiting the NSA's website so if you haven't been there don't worry about it but if you had, just delete all of your cookies.
     
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Dec 30, 2005, 10:21 AM
 
This is no big deal. Nearly ALL websites put cookies on your computer. The AP is trying to blow this up into something big, but it's nothing.

Chris
     
Professional Poster
Join Date: Sep 2000
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Dec 30, 2005, 10:27 AM
 
just delete cookies for domains you don't recognize.

-r.
     
Dedicated MacNNer
Join Date: Aug 2002
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Dec 30, 2005, 10:29 AM
 
If you're interested in removing the cookies (though there really isn't much of a point as the previous poster have said) you can download a program like "safari cookie cutter" and remove all cookies which come from the nsa.gov domain

the most the cookies can do is tell the nsa about previous visit's you've made to their website
     
Mac Enthusiast
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Georgetown, TX USA
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Dec 30, 2005, 10:43 AM
 
Originally Posted by clam2000
If you're interested in removing the cookies (though there really isn't much of a point as the previous poster have said) you can download a program like "safari cookie cutter" and remove all cookies which come from the nsa.gov domain

the most the cookies can do is tell the nsa about previous visit's you've made to their website
Safari Cookie Cutter did the trick. Thanks very much for the recommendation. I think Safari Cookie Cutter will come in very handy--a dandy piece of freeware.
Harv
27" i7 iMac, 10.7.4
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. ~Voltaire
     
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Dec 30, 2005, 11:14 AM
 
I don't see what Safari Cookie Cutter does that you can't do in Safari.

Chris
     
Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2003
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Dec 30, 2005, 11:25 AM
 
Originally Posted by chabig
I don't see what Safari Cookie Cutter does that you can't do in Safari.
Most importantly, IMO, it has a search. If you have alot of cookies, the Safari cookie manager is painful at best to go through trying to find specific cookies.

You can also edit cookies (could be handy for web dev).

It also has a cool white list that you can add cookies to that won't be deleted... so if you've got some sites that you don't want to remove the cookies for (oh say like MacNN Forums), you can white list those sites and then remove all cookies without loosing the ones you want to keep.

You can do some other things as wel, but at least those 3, Safari won't let you do. The Safari cookie manager would be quite a bit more useful if it at least had a search.
The only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing
- Edmund Burke
     
Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: San Antonio TX USA
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Dec 30, 2005, 11:29 AM
 
In Firefox NSA set two cookies called CFTOKEN and CFID, both tied to the NSA.gov domain. You should be able to delete them with Safari's own tools.

Here is what my cookies contained:
Name: CFTOKEN
Content: <8 digit decimal number>
Host: www.nsa.gov
Path: /
Send For: Any type of connection
Expires: Sunday, December 09, 2035 8:59:40 PM

Name: CFID
Content <5 digit decimal number>
Host: www.nsa.gov
Path: /
Send For: Any type of connection
Expires: Sunday, December 09, 2035 8:59:40 PM

Note that these are just "has visited" cookies, nothing more, and that the problem with them is that they use a very long expiration time-30 years! According to NSA, these cookies were set this way because they upgraded their server software and failed to pay attention to the default setting for cookie lifetime.
Glenn -----
OTR/L, MOT, Tx
     
Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2003
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Dec 30, 2005, 11:32 AM
 
Amazon.com as well as several other sites also set cookies for 30 years. No need to run around terrified because the NSA does it too.

Frankly I'd be a bit more concerned about why amazon.com would need to set a cookie for 30 years than why the NSA would.
The only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing
- Edmund Burke
     
Professional Poster
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Boston
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Dec 30, 2005, 11:36 AM
 
Everyone is neglecting the larger issue:
The NSA is using satellites to read and control people's mind.

The only way to avoid this is to fashion hats out of aluminum foil.
     
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Dec 30, 2005, 12:03 PM
 
Originally Posted by madmacgames
Most importantly, IMO, it has a search.
I must be dense this morning. Where is the search feature of Safari Cookie Cutter? I still don't see it.

Chris
     
Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2003
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Dec 30, 2005, 01:16 PM
 
Originally Posted by chabig
I must be dense this morning. Where is the search feature of Safari Cookie Cutter? I still don't see it.

Chris
Opps.. sorry my bad. I meant Cookies Eater. Just searched and all I can find about "Safari Cookie Cutter" are actual cookie cutters of safari animals. I can't find any software under that title. I did find this article titled "cookie cutter" that is about Cookies Eater, so I thought that might be the software that was being talked about, since it was all that google turned up.

http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macg...ater/index.php
(Last edited by madmacgames; Dec 30, 2005 at 01:22 PM. )
The only thing necessary for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing
- Edmund Burke
     
Professional Poster
Join Date: Sep 2000
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Dec 30, 2005, 02:10 PM
 
when looking for software, use versiontracker or macupdate, not google.

-r.
     
   
Thread Tools
Forum Links
Forum Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Top
Privacy Policy
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:49 AM.
All contents of these forums © 1995-2011 MacNN. All rights reserved.
Branding + Design: www.gesamtbild.com
vBulletin v.3.8.7 © 2000-2011, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2