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TETENAL · Jan 10, 2006, 06:38 PM

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win.../flip4mac.mspx

Flip4Mac is now freely available from Microsoft.

inkhead · Jan 10, 2006, 06:50 PM

Damnit, that sucks. I finall bought the whole thing the other day.

lavar78 · Jan 10, 2006, 06:52 PM

Excellent. I was thinking about buying it.

rickey939 · Jan 10, 2006, 06:57 PM

Wow, no kidding? That's the best news to come out of MWSF '06...awesome!

Big Mac · Jan 10, 2006, 07:01 PM

And this comes with a license?

LiquidGuy · Jan 10, 2006, 07:02 PM

So does Windows now own Flip4Mac or sumthin?

rickey939 · Jan 10, 2006, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by Big Mac

And this comes with a license?

It doesn't appear so...

lavar78 · Jan 10, 2006, 07:19 PM

I think just the player is free. That's the option that used to be $10. Now it should play the whole video instead of the first half (if I'm understanding correctly).

CharlesS · Jan 10, 2006, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by LiquidGuy

So does Windows now own Flip4Mac or sumthin?

It does feel like a Microsoft product now... given that it's become much more unstable than it used to be. Crashes both QuickTime Player and iMovie...

Horsepoo!!! · Jan 10, 2006, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by CharlesS

It does feel like a Microsoft product now... given that it's become much more unstable than it used to be. Crashes both QuickTime Player and iMovie...

Crashed my Safari. Secret MS code must have slipped into the 2.0 release.

osxrules · Jan 10, 2006, 07:43 PM

Great news. I'm glad to see Microsoft are finally doing something nice for a change. Flip4Mac is great software and this version seems to support avi containers.

Millennium · Jan 10, 2006, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by LiquidGuy

So does Windows now own Flip4Mac or sumthin?

My guess is they cut some kind of co-branding deal. Only the basic player seems to be free; you still have to buy the other versions from Flip4Mac.

Does this mean that WiMP is dead on the Mac?

Horsepoo!!! · Jan 10, 2006, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by Millennium

Does this mean that WiMP is dead on the Mac?

Probably...leave it to MS to take the easy way out.

Safari is out...we'll just stop IE dev for Mac.
Flip4Mac is pretty good and works in QuickTime? We'll just stop WiMP dev on Mac (or what little of it)
Apple released a spreadsheet today? We won't sign that 5 year contract anymore. (ok, this one didn't happen...but I'd imagine it would if Apple was planning to release a spreadsheet app.)

To me, this really sounds like MS had no updates to WiMP in the pipelines. They wouldn't have cut this deal if they had something interesting to give us.

TDA · Jan 10, 2006, 08:24 PM

Get info on wmv files crashes the get info windows in tiger and crashes quicktime 7.0.4. Is anyone else getting this problem?

fisherKing · Jan 10, 2006, 08:47 PM

no problems here...(tried get info, etc)
great app!
with this, and the divx plugin...quicktime is amazing...

LiquidGuy · Jan 10, 2006, 10:08 PM

Yep, QT crashes for me, but only when I try quitting it. Weird.

Stogieman · Jan 10, 2006, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by Millennium

Does this mean that WiMP is dead on the Mac?

During the keynote, Roz Ho stated MS Office and Messenger will be updated with universal binaries by March. She didn't mention anything about WiMP. Hmm....

Meritocracy · Jan 11, 2006, 02:30 AM

Well Ho's department (Mac Business Unit) doesn't work on Mac WMP, so there's no reason for her to mention it.

Krypton · Jan 11, 2006, 06:12 AM

This v2 crashes any app that is using QT 7.0.4 - Safari, QT player etc.

rickey939 · Jan 11, 2006, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by Krypton

This v2 crashes any app that is using QT 7.0.4 - Safari, QT player etc.

Yep...damn! Uninstalling until a fix is issued.

alphasubzero949 · Jan 11, 2006, 03:53 PM

Flip4Mac posted in their forums that they are aware of the QT 7.0.4 conflict and will have a fix shortly.

Systems without QuickTime 7.0.4 seem to be faring well with the new plugin.

JKT · Jan 11, 2006, 04:35 PM

It's a shame people are going to be given a bad impression of this plug-in because of this as the version 1.0.x was extremely good.

CharlesS · Jan 11, 2006, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by alphasubzero949

Flip4Mac posted in their forums that they are aware of the QT 7.0.4 conflict and will have a fix shortly.

Where did they post this? I did a search of their forums, and all I could find were a bunch of threads where someone said it was crashing, and they just told him to repair permissions.

rickey939 · Jan 11, 2006, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by CharlesS

Where did they post this? I did a search of their forums, and all I could find were a bunch of threads where someone said it was crashing, and they just told him to repair permissions.

That same thread you read says they are working on a fix...

http://www.flip4mac.com/fusetalk/for...keyword1=7.0.4

Ratm · Jan 11, 2006, 06:42 PM

From what I've read on Arstechnica, it's the QT update that fub with something in F4M 2.0 version. They weren't expecting an update to QT so soon(?) or didn't think it would mess with it. Reverting back to the pervious version of quicktime will resolve the problem. Although some users did report that the problem remained.

They kindly added the option to save a wmv from within the browser window like QT pro (yay!). Good company and they listen to their users requests. I'm using this to convert all wmv to another format.

MS

fisherKing · Jan 12, 2006, 09:30 AM

this is my first install of the app...makes a difference perhaps?
am running it with 10.4.4, and quicktime pro 7.0.4, and no problems (so far...)

tooki · Jan 12, 2006, 10:56 AM

I, too, am experiencing the QT 7.0.4 conflict. I had to uninstall it, even though it's the coolest free thing out of Macworld. It crashes any app that uses QuickTime any time the app attempts to unload a QT viewer.

tooki

rickey939 · Jan 12, 2006, 01:22 PM

v2.0.1 is now ready for consumption...damn, that was fast...

http://www.flip4mac.com/wmv_download.htm

Jens Peter · Jan 12, 2006, 01:38 PM

Dosen't work for me. All I get, is a white screen - no audio or picture. Tested it at BBC News.

Where is the uninstaller ?

LiquidGuy · Jan 12, 2006, 02:22 PM

Worked like a charm here. No more crashes.

Anand · Jan 12, 2006, 02:38 PM

Works like a charm. Even though it is now free, I feel like making a donation. Great little app.

Tesseract · Jan 12, 2006, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Jens Peter

Dosen't work for me. All I get, is a white screen - no audio or picture. Tested it at BBC News.

Where is the uninstaller ?

/Applications/Flip4Mac/Flip4Mac WMV Uninstaller.pkg

rickey939 · Jan 12, 2006, 02:56 PM

M$ needs to update their site now to reflect this newer v2.0.1 version...

threestain · Jan 12, 2006, 03:25 PM

does anyone else get it effing around with scrolling in safari? unless I keep loading up firefox, safari appears to be scrolling like a hog since all the updates!

alphasubzero949 · Jan 12, 2006, 03:29 PM

Finally works with Widget TV...

Goldfinger · Jan 12, 2006, 04:01 PM

When I specidy in the finder to open wmv files with quicktime I get a generic blank document icon instead of a QuickTime file icon with WMV in it. What gives ? Is this normal ?

CharlesS · Jan 12, 2006, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by Goldfinger

When I specidy in the finder to open wmv files with quicktime I get a generic blank document icon instead of a QuickTime file icon with WMV in it. What gives ? Is this normal ?

Yes, because QuickTime Player doesn't know anything about WMV files and has no idea that it can now open them.

They included a little workaround with Flip4Mac - set the default app for WMV files to "WMV Player" and that will make the icon look normal, and when you double-click the WMV file, it'll get passed right along to QT Player.

mdc · Jan 12, 2006, 04:20 PM

I may be wrong with this but when you specify that quicktime opens .wmv files it looks in its .plist file and there are a lot of file extension settings in there along with which .icns file to display in finder.
Since there is no .wmv icon nor setting in the .plist file it displays the blank icon.

I found flip4mac a while ago and started playing around with the .plist. My plan was to add the .wmv extension into an existing setting. one of the icons says "movie" on a quicktime icon.

I guess with the new Quicktime update my .plist file was replaced. When i get home from work i'll see if i can get it working and i'll share my findings.

CharlesS · Jan 12, 2006, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by mdc

I may be wrong with this but when you specify that quicktime opens .wmv files it looks in its .plist file and there are a lot of file extension settings in there along with which .icns file to display in finder.
Since there is no .wmv icon nor setting in the .plist file it displays the blank icon.

That is correct, but again, if you set the default app for .wmv to the "WMV Player" app that comes with Flip4Mac, it is functionally equivalent to having an icon for WMV files inside QT Player's .plist.

CharlesS · Jan 12, 2006, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by mdc

I may be wrong with this but when you specify that quicktime opens .wmv files it looks in its .plist file and there are a lot of file extension settings in there along with which .icns file to display in finder.
Since there is no .wmv icon nor setting in the .plist file it displays the blank icon.

That is correct, but again, if you set the default app for .wmv to the "WMV Player" app that comes with Flip4Mac, it is functionally equivalent to having an icon for WMV files inside QT Player's .plist.

kcmac · Jan 12, 2006, 06:54 PM

Do a get info on a wmv file. Click on the "open with" triangle. Then select wmv player.app. (This is in the Flip4Mac folder in applications).

It will change the wmv icon to a QT version.

Seems to work great with QT 7.04. Really like being able to FF and RR quickly now. WMP just sucks at that.

Still can't play .asx files. This is a file that a local radio show uses to broadcast their shows live.

kcmac · Jan 12, 2006, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by kcmac

Do a get info on a wmv file. Click on the "open with" triangle. Then select wmv player.app. (This is in the Flip4Mac folder in applications).

It will change the wmv icon to a QT version.

Seems to work great with QT 7.04. Really like being able to FF and RR quickly now. WMP just sucks at that.

Still can't play .asx files. This is a file that a local radio show uses to broadcast their shows live.

Dang it. Charles just beat me.

Leia's Left Bun · Jan 12, 2006, 07:52 PM

Microsoft has cancelled any future Windows Media Player for Mac:

http://news.com.com/Music+stops+for+...&subj=news

rickey939 · Jan 12, 2006, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by Leia's Left Bun

Microsoft has cancelled any future Windows Media Player for Mac:

http://news.com.com/Music+stops+for+...&subj=news

Not surprised.

macintologist · Jan 12, 2006, 08:05 PM

I don't get it, Flip4Mac is totally out of sync. I have this White Stripes video and by the end the lip sync is waaaay off, by seconds.

Here's a direct link to the file in question

(option click) http://icdweb.cc.purdue.edu/%7Egcerb...al%20Twist.wmv

chabig · Jan 12, 2006, 08:12 PM

That video played great on my machine. The audio and video stayed in sync throughout.

Chris

macintologist · Jan 12, 2006, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by chabig

That video played great on my machine. The audio and video stayed in sync throughout.

Chris

Maybe my computer is too slow?

867mhz g4 powerbook.

chabig · Jan 12, 2006, 08:29 PM

I would not be surprised if hardware performance figures into playback quality. Mine is a 12" 1.5GHz Powerbook.

Chris

macintologist · Jan 12, 2006, 08:34 PM

Is flip4mac compatible with Intel? Don't they have to recompile to optimize it for intel?

alphasubzero949 · Jan 12, 2006, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Leia's Left Bun

Microsoft has cancelled any future Windows Media Player for Mac:

http://news.com.com/Music+stops+for+...&subj=news

Originally Posted by TFA

Anderson said the decision to halt work on Windows Media Player for the Mac was a matter of prioritizing for Microsoft's Windows Media unit.

"It's basically a business decision for Microsoft," Anderson said. "Like any other company, we have business priorities. Our focus really is in delivering the best experience to Windows customers."