[reneS]

Aloha all,

I have a server that password users can d/l and u/l files to using Fetch, or the like. I remember a while back (in my more familiar OS9 world) having users be able to upload files to my server thru IE or a browser. Can anyone step me thru how to set it up so that a user can drag and drop in IE?

OSX10.2
IE 5.2

I can also do it on my OS10.4 machine if I have to, but would prefer on my OS10.2 laptop.

Mahalo for any help or advice you can offer.
rené

[whgoodman]

Originally Posted by reneS

Aloha all,

I have a server that password users can d/l and u/l files to using Fetch, or the like. I remember a while back (in my more familiar OS9 world) having users be able to upload files to my server thru IE or a browser. Can anyone step me thru how to set it up so that a user can drag and drop in IE?

OSX10.2
IE 5.2

I can also do it on my OS10.4 machine if I have to, but would prefer on my OS10.2 laptop.

Mahalo for any help or advice you can offer.
rené

If you already have FTP set up on the server then FTP via IE is pretty simple. Just construct the URL like ftp://your.ftp.server, press enter and a dialog box will pop up asking for the connect-as user and the password. Then you can drag/drop at will on the IE side.

Walt

[reneS]

Thank you Walt. When I type in

ftp://ftp.myservername

then it just brings up an empty list (name, size, kind, last modified headers). No user/password dialog box comes up. The restricted areas that require a user name and password are a couple of folders deeper in a path. However, when I try to type in the address

ftp://ftp.myservername/folderName/folderName/

it says "no such file" only on the page and still not user/password dialog comes up. Windows users are the only ones that have tried to drop files on it via IE, and are claiming it's a Mac issue that they don't have when they drop on their usual IE ftp sites

>:-[

Of course, I want to prove them wrong!

Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

rené

[whgoodman]

Originally Posted by reneS

Thank you Walt. When I type in

ftp://ftp.myservername

then it just brings up an empty list (name, size, kind, last modified headers). No user/password dialog box comes up. The restricted areas that require a user name and password are a couple of folders deeper in a path. However, when I try to type in the address

ftp://ftp.myservername/folderName/folderName/

it says "no such file" only on the page and still not user/password dialog comes up. Windows users are the only ones that have tried to drop files on it via IE, and are claiming it's a Mac issue that they don't have when they drop on their usual IE ftp sites

>:-[

Of course, I want to prove them wrong!

Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

rené

I've been doing a bit of testing on my systems here. Seems that if you do something like

ftp://user@ftp.myservername it will prompt you for a password, otherwise it's assuming anonymous ftp [check /var/log/ftp.log for errors shoing that].

Walt

[reneS]

If you'd like to try yourself...

ftp://ftp.renesadae.com/clientaccess/acces_provisoire/

This is where I should expect the user dialog to comeup. Thru

http://renesadae.com/clientaccess/acces_provisoire/

it does, if you try and open any folders (USGS right now) that you see there. So what I'm trying to do is be able to have the users not just download files after they've accessed them thru the password dialog, but also be able to drop in files into the folder using their IE or browser of choice.

Thank you for your patience. I hope I'm explaining myself well.

rené

[whgoodman]

Originally Posted by reneS

If you'd like to try yourself...

ftp://ftp.renesadae.com/clientaccess/acces_provisoire/

This is where I should expect the user dialog to comeup. Thru

http://renesadae.com/clientaccess/acces_provisoire/

it does, if you try and open any folders (USGS right now) that you see there. So what I'm trying to do is be able to have the users not just download files after they've accessed them thru the password dialog, but also be able to drop in files into the folder using their IE or browser of choice.

Thank you for your patience. I hope I'm explaining myself well.

rené

Well, for starters I'm sure that the ftp link doesn't map to your document root for your apache server so I wouldn't expect the ftp to connect. When I try ftp://ftp.renesadae.com [w/o the other directories] I do connect so It looks like you may have anonymous ftp enabled. If you create a user with a home directory equal to whaterver ..../clientaccess/acces_provisioire equates to then ftp to ftp://newusername@ftp.renesadae.com then you will be prompted for the password and be dropped in the acces_provisoire directory with access to USGS. You will have to be aware of the UID/GID of the new ftp userid since Unix-style permissions are in play on the OS X box.

[reneS]

Hey Walt,

Thank you; I'm making progress. I was able to login and can now see the list of docs already there.

However...

Just like with the ftp://ftp.renesadae.com (anonymous) login, I cannot drag and drop any file onto the page and have it upload. Is that not the process that should be, or am I forgetting a procedure for uploading a file?

Also...

I'm sorry I don't understand what you mean here...

"You will have to be aware of the UID/GID of the new ftp userid since Unix-style permissions are in play on the OS X box."

I'm guessing that UID means userID and G...guest.

Thanks for hanging in there with me.

rené

[whgoodman]

Originally Posted by reneS

Hey Walt,

Thank you; I'm making progress. I was able to login and can now see the list of docs already there.

However...

Just like with the ftp://ftp.renesadae.com (anonymous) login, I cannot drag and drop any file onto the page and have it upload. Is that not the process that should be, or am I forgetting a procedure for uploading a file?

Also...

I'm sorry I don't understand what you mean here...

"You will have to be aware of the UID/GID of the new ftp userid since Unix-style permissions are in play on the OS X box."

I'm guessing that UID means userID and G...guest.

Thanks for hanging in there with me.

rené

Sort of. UID (Unix user id) and GID (Unix group id). At a minimum, the GID or Group for the new ID that you created has to be the same as the group that owns the directory that you're writing to [and the permissions on the parent directory needs to have group write permissions enabled], or you can change the directory permissions on the directory itself so that anyone can write there. The latter being the less secure of the two options.

Walt

[reneS]

I must be doing something wrong along the way. And now I've made it worse. I can't access the acces_provisoire folder using the USGS or a new user.

If you care to try, I set up a folder and user that I was going to use as a way to learn how to write to. But again, now I can't even access it using the browser through my homepage.

I created a folder in the same directory:

http://renesadae.com/clientaccess/ac...ovisoire/WALT/

Originally, I could bring it up in the browser, but now I get authorization denied (from your folder as well as the USGS) and I can only see it using...

ftp://walt@ftp.renesadae.com/

I put a file in the WALT folder. Obviously I or you can see it/download it. However, I still can't drag a file from my finder onto the page to drop into the WALT folder.

The two things I did on my Unix admin page was make a new user on the create/delete user option:

walt

with a password:

MNNhelp

and also create a new user on the htaccess option (same user and password).

As I stated, I still cannot drag and drop on any folder using either the previously accessible USGS folder, nor the new WALT folder using the new user and password

Any clue as to what I did/doing wrong?

Thank you so much for your help.

rené

[whgoodman]

That configuration works for me. You should now see a testfile at location. It was put there via drag and drop using IE from a win2k workstation that I'm accessing via remote desktop.

<EDIT>
Although when tried via OS X I get an error when moving the file in which says that the file cannot be modified even though the file does not exist. Still seems to be a permissions issue via this access method.
<End Edit>

<another edit>
Here is the reason for the ftp/finder issue
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107415
<end edit>

Walt

[reneS]

Aloha Walt,

Thank you so so much for all your help and patience. If you were able to upload from the finder using Windows, I'm sure the PC clients can since they are doing it on other ftp sites.

Now I gotta figure out what I changed in the process of figuring this out as I'm getting authorization denied now. I did this once before a while back, so I should be able to figure it out or reset it all.

Mahalo Nui Loa,
rené

[whgoodman]

Glad I could help.