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vamp07 · Mar 23, 2006, 08:46 PM

Does anybody know of a tool that will alert you when Rosetta kicks in? I'm just curious of what I have on my system that is not universal yet and how often it gets run. I know the info box tells you if something is universal.

TETENAL · Mar 23, 2006, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by vamp07

I'm just curious of what I have on my system that is not universal yet

Click the Apple in the menubar and select "About this Mac". In the dialog that pops up click the "More Info..." button. More info will be displayed. Under "Contents" in the Software category click on "Applications". In the table that is shown click on the "Kind" header to sort by kind. You now see what is Universal and what is not (note that "Native (preferred) or Classic" is not Intel-native but PowerPC).

vamp07 · Mar 23, 2006, 09:40 PM

That's pretty cool for applications. I was hoping for something that also told me about things like browser extensions etc. Mostly I wish I knew that item x is kicking in Rosetta often so I know that is an Item I should look for an upgrade for. An example would be Java in the browser plugins. At least on my MBP it looks like Java has not been made universal yet?

TETENAL · Mar 23, 2006, 09:44 PM

Rosetta is only running applications. Plug-ins must be available in the same architecture the host applications is running in or they are not running at all. There is no "mixed-mode" like there was in the classic Mac OS with 68k and PowerPC code.

If Java weren't available for Intel yet, it simply wouldn't run in Safari.

Mithras · Mar 24, 2006, 10:00 AM

Though Rosetta will also run command-line tools that don't show up in the System Profiler. For example I'm running the DNSUpdate daemon, which is PowerPC, as a StartupItem without incident.
I agree it'd be nice to know what's universal and what not. All I can think is to do so Terminal-fu to feed ps auxwww into 'file' to determine which running commands are Universal and which PowerPC...

vamp07 · Mar 24, 2006, 11:32 AM

That's a great idea. I'll give it a try. This is definitely a great area for somebody to write a widget.

alex_kac · Mar 24, 2006, 03:21 PM

Use ActivityMonitor. It has a column for "Kind" which lets you sort every single process by Intel/PPC.

vamp07 · Mar 24, 2006, 09:07 PM

This is EXACTLY what I was looking for. For some reason I did not think Activity monitor had a column for type. Thanks!!!!

vamp07 · Mar 26, 2006, 08:14 AM

I got the Universal binary for missing Sync and now the only process I see listed as PowerPC is something called "translate" when you see a process like this in activity monitor, how can you figure out what it is?

Thanks

Catfish_Man · Mar 26, 2006, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by vamp07

I got the Universal binary for missing Sync and now the only process I see listed as PowerPC is something called "translate" when you see a process like this in activity monitor, how can you figure out what it is?

Thanks

Try running

Code:
ps -auxww | grep translate

in Terminal; it'll tell you how it was launched.

vamp07 · Mar 26, 2006, 12:19 PM

What can I infer from this?

vampire 239 0.0 1.0 117128 10656 ?? SNs 11:41AM 0:01.40 /usr/libexec/oah/translate /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/Metadata.framework/Versions/A/Support/mdimportserver -s -R

Catfish_Man · Mar 26, 2006, 02:02 PM

That's... curious. mdimportserver is using translate? I wonder why.

vamp07 · Mar 26, 2006, 05:46 PM

What is the mdimportserver?

Thinine · Mar 26, 2006, 11:16 PM

It's the process that imports the metadata from files into the Spotlight database. It runs in the background and indexes new files.