[bobmorabito]

Im using Mac OS 10.2.7 Power PC G4 Ighz 768 MB Ram (25-30 GB of disk drive unused)

Using Disk Copy, Ive tried to mount an ISO image--3.2 GB-it keeps resulting in kernel panic..

I've read of similar problems, and tried all their solutions, except logging in and out:

http://www.macattorney.com/tutorial....chor-diskimage

Disk Image can convert it to a dmg file, and it checksums out, indicating to me, the image is not corrupt-but trying to then mount the dmg STILL casues the kernel panic.
Is this correct thinking about it NOT being corrupt?

Any way to check?

I also tried with Disk Utility--the mount option is greyed out--says its a Roxio Inc. DIsk Image Media, Disk Write Status: Read/Write

I also am aware of RAM going bad causing kernel panic, but it only happens with this image, and also with using two consecutive programs that use Apples Audio Midi Setup-Core Audio, I believe, which is also well documented,,best to just restart between using two of these kinds of applications.

Any suggestions how to mount, or extract files from this iso image??
Thanks for any and all help-

Peace. Bob Morabito

PS--I also Tried Toast Titanium 6 to mount it-didnt do anything-no crash, or kernel panic..just a slight delay, like it was going to do something the first time, then nothing..

I also checked computer with Tech Tools, and Norton-everything ok
PLEASE HELP!!:

THANK YOU~!!

[bradoesch]

Do you have a DVD burner? Could you burn the image to a disc?

What about another Mac or a PC to try out the image with?

[bobmorabito]

Originally Posted by bradoesch

Do you have a DVD burner? Could you burn the image to a disc?

What about another Mac or a PC to try out the image with?

Originally Posted by bradoesch

Do you have a DVD burner? Could you burn the image to a disc?

What about another Mac or a PC to try out the image with?

Only have a CD burner--how would I get the image to another computer? (not really feasible at this time but for future reference)

Any solutions I can try here on my Mac?

Thanks for replying-
Peace, Bob

[bradoesch]

Originally Posted by bobmorabito

Only have a CD burner--how would I get the image to another computer? (not really feasible at this time but for future reference)

Any solutions I can try here on my Mac?

Thanks for replying-
Peace, Bob

If you have a friend with a laptop it's really simple to network two computers and share files between them.

[bobmorabito]

Originally Posted by bradoesch

If you have a friend with a laptop it's really simple to network two computers and share files between them.

Thanks for the info-exactly what is needed, (programs, cable, etc) and the steps involved?
(Mac to Mac, and Mac to PC?)

and any suggestions using my own computer here?

Thanks again-

Peace, Bob

[bobmorabito]

I was able to mount the Image using Virtual PC, with a program called Isobuster, by Smart Projects--it seems the image has both an iso, and a UDF component--WinImage could only see the iso component.. all other programs failed.

Thanks to all for their kind help!

Peace, Bob

PS-Again--any programs for the Mac that will open an iso image that has both these components-iso/udf?

[Rainy Day]

I think your problem is you’re using Jaguar. In Tiger (and probably Panther), Disk Utility will easily handle ISO files. [ I think you’ll find an upgrade is well worth the money in terms of speed and stability, not to mention features. I have Tiger running on a WallStreet (266 Mhz G3, 320Mb RAM) via Xpostfacto. So much nicer than Jaguar. ]

There are some command line tools which can be used to burn ISO images. One i’ve used is hdiutil. You’d invoke it in the Terminal.app something like this (assuming you want to burn a file named “master.iso”):

hdiutil burn master.iso -testburn -noeject

Notes: The option -testburn will do a trial run without turning on the laser; use -noeject if you don't want the CD ejected after the burn; verification occurs by default.

Hope this helps.

Edit: Confirmed that hdiutil does indeed come with Jaguar.

[bobmorabito]

Thanks so much for replying, Rainy Day-

I agree about Jaguar, as I have read about problems with iso images--but all my many installed programs are working EXCELLENTLY, and I've heard-AND EXPERIENCED--too many upgrade horror stories-

And as I've written-its NOT an ordinary iso file, but a combo iso/udf..and I only have a CD burner--

I did see this on the web, and I think its related to what you're saying-but its for OS 10.3, and I.m not one to mess with Terminal:

Work with PC-created Joliet Level 3 CDs
Fri, Apr 16 '04 at 09:29AM • from: Anonymous
I did a little bit of investigation and found that you can, in fact, use discs with the Joliet 3 filesystem specification in Mac OS X 10.3. These discs can come from Windows users who burn dsics with DirectCD for Windows. Although Mac OS X will automatically mount discs burned with the Joliet Level 1 or Level 2 extensions to the ISO-9660 filesystem, I've had several users complain about not being able to mount "PC CDs." As it turns out, those discs were using the Joliet Level 3 extensions to ISO-9660. Here's how to make them work:

1. Insert the disc, and open Terminal and Disk Utility.
2. In Disk Utility: Determine the device identifier of the disc you inserted. Click the CD session (or volume) in the devices list in Disk Utility and click the Info button. Look for "Disk Identifier," and note the value. For example, on my iBook, it's disk1s0 (d-i-s-k-number one-letter "s"-number zero) for the fist volume on a CD in my internal Combo drive.
3. In Terminal, do the following:

1. Create a mount point with this command, replacing mount_point with a name of your choice: mkdir /Volumes/mount_point
2. Tell cd9660.util to force-mount the volume on the CD to the mount point. Replace disk_identifier with the disk identifier from Disk Utility (step two above), and replace mount_point with the name of the mount point you just created:
/System/Library/Filesystems/cd9660.fs/cd9660.util -M disk_identifier /Volumes/mount_point
3. Tell applications that a new volume is available by typing disktool -r.

For example, it would look something like this:

$ mkdir /Volumes/pccd
$ /System/Library/Filesystems/cd9660.fs/cd9660.util -M disk1s0 /Volumes/pccd
$ disktool -r

Work with the disc as usual, ejecting it using the Finder when you're done. I've found that file sizes may not be reported correctly for files on the CD, but the files can be copied from the CD if you have trouble.

Thanks again for replying!
Peace, Bob

Originally Posted by Rainy Day

I think your problem is you’re using Jaguar. In Tiger (and probably Panther), Disk Utility will easily handle ISO files. [ I think you’ll find an upgrade is well worth the money in terms of speed and stability, not to mention features. I have Tiger running on a WallStreet (266 Mhz G3, 320Mb RAM) via Xpostfacto. So much nicer than Jaguar. ]

There are some command line tools which can be used to burn ISO images. One i’ve used is hdiutil. You’d invoke it in the Terminal.app something like this (assuming you want to burn a file named “master.iso”):

hdiutil burn master.iso -testburn -noeject

Notes: The option -testburn will do a trial run without turning on the laser; use -noeject if you don't want the CD ejected after the burn; verification occurs by default.

Hope this helps.

Edit: Confirmed that hdiutil does indeed come with Jaguar.

[Rainy Day]

Originally Posted by bobmorabito

I agree about Jaguar, as I have read about problems with iso images--but all my many installed programs are working EXCELLENTLY, and I've heard-AND EXPERIENCED--too many upgrade horror stories-

Well upgrading from Jaguar to Panther on my Wallstreet PB was difficult, but only because it was such an old machine (circa 1998). I procrastinated about a year before taking the plunge. However it was well worth it when i did; wished i hadn’t waited. Panther was so much better than Jaguar. And Tiger is even better still.

Originally Posted by bobmorabito

And as I've written-its NOT an ordinary iso file, but a combo iso/udf..and I only have a CD burner--

I did see this on the web, and I think its related to what you're saying-but its for OS 10.3, and I.m not one to mess with Terminal:

No, that’s a little different than i was suggesting. You’re better off using the utility i suggested, i think. And it should work under Jaguar. Here’s what to do (fairly simple, really):

Open the Terminal.app and copy and paste (or drag and drop) the following text into the Terminal window:

hdiutil burn

Make sure there’s at least one space after the word “burn”. Do NOT hit enter/return just yet. Now drag the icon of the ISO file to the Terminal window. That action will enter in the Unix path to your file. Now bring the Terminal window to the front and hit the return key. Follow any instructions, such as inserting a blank CD, etc.

If memory serves correctly, this is all you need to do. Not very hard, and worth the effort. Costs you nothing but a couple minutes of your time to try.

[bobmorabito]

Thanks again for replying--but upgrading is NOT in my plans..too many really EXCELLENT programs running really well, to mess with it.:

If memory serves correctly, this is all you need to do. Not very hard, and worth the effort. Costs you nothing but a couple minutes of your time to try.

I'm a little hesitant about using Terminal, as my experiences, and reading about it suggest it is NOT something to fool around with-

So, in all honesty--before I even consider trying it--and you're admittedly not sure

"If memory serves correctly"

if what you've written is all it entails, and, previously

One i’ve used is hdiutil. You’d invoke it in the Terminal.app something like this"

-making me not know if its EXACT code you're supplying-


HOW would I get a 3.2 GB ( as I've stated in the initial post) on to ONLY a CD burner (which I wrote in my second post)???

Is there a way?

Thanks again for replying, and all your help--

Peace, Bob

[Rainy Day]

Originally Posted by bobmorabito

HOW would I get a 3.2 GB ( as I've stated in the initial post) on to ONLY a CD burner (which I wrote in my second post)???

Is there a way?

Looks like i didn’t read very carefully. That’s not like me, sorry.

That’s obviously a DVD master image. Since you don’t have a DVD burner, it ain’t gonna happen no matter what software you’re running. It’s like trying to hold 5 gallons of water in an 8oz glass.

But aside from that little detail, it would have been safe for you to have tried the hdiutil because even if my memory was off, nothing bad would have happened. (Of course, if my memory was off, nothing good would have happened either!) All moot now that you pointed out that your image file is clearly for a DVD.

[bobmorabito]

No problem-I had a feeling you hadn't read it--

the format of the disk is UDF Bridge-a hybrid of UDF and ISO 9660.

And yes, its just common sense-as was stated--that without a DVD burner..well..which is why I wrote what I did...
(However had I been able to mount it on the Mac, as I did in Virtual PC--it would ahve taken MINUTES to do what it took hours to do-extract the files, and then they could be written to a cd, in parts, as I will do)

And I STILL (lol) would not fool around with Terminal, WITHOUT having code that was known, and PERFECT...
I had a bad experience with it--my ONLY experience, and I really feel that just typing things into it-that may-or MAY NOT be correct..is just not wise..

A final note--I was able as I said to use the file, with Isobuster, and I extracted what was needed..
Thanks again.

Peace, Bob

PS-i STILL woudl like to know a Mac aplication that can moung an ISO/UDF-Bridge format disk image-

Originally Posted by Rainy Day

Looks like i didn’t read very carefully. That’s not like me, sorry.

That’s obviously a DVD master image. Since you don’t have a DVD burner, it ain’t gonna happen no matter what software you’re running. It’s like trying to hold 5 gallons of water in an 8oz glass.

But aside from that little detail, it would have been safe for you to have tried the hdiutil because even if my memory was off, nothing bad would have happened. (Of course, if my memory was off, nothing good would have happened either!) All moot now that you pointed out that your image file is clearly for a DVD.

[Rainy Day]

Originally Posted by bobmorabito

No problem-I had a feeling you hadn't read it--

the format of the disk is UDF Bridge-a hybrid of UDF and ISO 9660.

.iso files can be CD masters too.

Originally Posted by bobmorabito

(However had I been able to mount it on the Mac, as I did in Virtual PC--it would ahve taken MINUTES to do what it took hours to do-extract the files, and then they could be written to a cd, in parts, as I will do)

I remember reading that Apple’s .dmg format, at least in some cases such as when you select create “CD/DVD Master,” is actually an ISO 9660 format disk image. So i’m surprised that Jaguar isn’t able to mount it (if that’s all you wanted to do). If you can’t get it to mount, try renaming it with a .dmg extension and double-click on it. Because it’s a hybrid format, this may or may not be successful, but trying should do no harm. It’ll either work or not.

Originally Posted by bobmorabito

And I STILL (lol) would not fool around with Terminal, WITHOUT having code that was known, and PERFECT...

The code is supplied as part of Jaguar. The command line utilities are probably a lot more “perfect” (i.e. debugged… and efficient) than anything else you are likely to run on your Mac!

Originally Posted by bobmorabito

I had a bad experience with it--my ONLY experience, and I really feel that just typing things into it-that may-or MAY NOT be correct..is just not wise..

I can understand your point. However in the case of this utility, nothing bad would have happened. It either would have read the file and tried to burn it, or not. Nothing would be trashed on the HD, and the computer would not catch on fire!

It is only by using the Terminal again that you will ever be able to reduce that 100%-bad-taste-in-your-mouth-from-using-Terminal feeling!

Originally Posted by bobmorabito

PS-i STILL woudl like to know a Mac aplication that can moung an ISO/UDF-Bridge format disk image-

If the renaming trick doesn’t work, google for “ISO/UDF to .dmg”. There are conversion utilities out there. Since .dmg can read standard ISO 9660, you can try googling for “ISO/UDF to ISO 9660” too.

[bobmorabito]

.iso files can be CD masters too.

A known, a given...:

So i’m surprised that Jaguar isn’t able to mount it (if that’s all you wanted to do).

Again, read the original post--all I wanted to do was mount it, and extract files

If you can’t get it to mount, try renaming it with a .dmg extension and double-click on it. Because it’s a hybrid format, this may or may not be successful, but trying should do no harm. It’ll either work or not.

Again, please read the posts..I wrote that Disk Copy was able to convert it into a dmg, but trying to mount that also resulted in kernel panic.

The code is supplied as part of Jaguar. The command line utilities are probably a lot more “perfect” (i.e. debugged… and efficient) than anything else you are likely to run on your Mac!

Again, I was referring to YOUR code, NOT the computer!!

I can understand your point. However in the case of this utility, nothing bad would have happened. It either would have read the file and tried to burn it, or not. Nothing would be trashed on the HD, and the computer would not catch on fire!

LOL-but I really feel that you-or ANYONE giving code that may or may not be correct, and just haphazardly trying things in Terminal, is unwise, as people reading these forums will be tempted to try, and MAJOR problems could result.

Plus, (again) had you read the posts, you would have seen I only had a CD burner, so giving advice to help burn the image was useless, and wasnt even requested...just to mount the image, and extract files

It is only by using the Terminal again that you will ever be able to reduce that 100%-bad-taste-in-your-mouth-from-using-Terminal feeling!

Well, if I EVER try it again, it will only be with known, perfect code supplied..no guess work, or maybes, as the code you were offering, i.e. " only if your memory served you correctly", or "something like this", iwhich just isnt good, smart practice..

If the renaming trick doesn’t work, google for “ISO/UDF to .dmg”. There are conversion utilities out there. Since .dmg can read standard ISO 9660, you can try googling for “ISO/UDF to ISO 9660” too.

Already done--thats how Isobuster, and WinImage, WinISo, etc were found, plus the info I wrote about the problems with iso images..

There are conversion utilities out there.

None that I could find, or use, and I really looked..and as I wrote, many PC programs (using Virtual PC would only mount the iso part, and not even recognize the UDF part)...

Would you name some? I'd appreciate it, that work with Macs, and that I could use?!

(again I requested this ALSO in the posts!!!)

THANKS!!

Peace, and thanks again for replying-Bob

PS--I again would really like to thank you for your replies-but not reading the posts, and offering "maybe' sort of codes, and procedures in applications, can only result in problems, for others.

But I do appreciate your trying to help!!

THANKS!