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Enigmatik · Jun 12, 2006, 09:35 AM

Hi there,

Does anyone know if Microsoft plans to release a UB version of their MSN Messenger? I use Adium at the moment but its just not as good as the real deal - for me at least!

So does anyone know if and when they are going get the UB version of MSN out? - the PPC version on my Macbook Pro is too sluggish for me!

OreoCookie · Jun 12, 2006, 09:44 AM

There are native alternatives such as Fire and Adium. I personally use Adium and I'm very happy with it. Since the Mac version has never supported video and audio chats, there is no reason for me to use MS' official client.

Enigmatik · Jun 12, 2006, 09:53 AM

Yeah I already said that I use Adium at the moment. I have come from 10 years of using a PC to a Mac and I have always used MSN Messenger on the PC. I like the MSN for Mac but its not UB.

OreoCookie · Jun 12, 2006, 10:23 AM

Adium and Fire are essentially the equivalents of Trillian.

Nai no Kami · Jun 12, 2006, 12:09 PM

Adium gives me pleasure bursts

Sorry. I was missing WDLove.

monkeybrain · Jun 12, 2006, 12:16 PM

Adium has more features than MSN Mac messenger, so there's no reason to use MSN really (especially if you're coming from a PC, where MSN is much better).

You can make Adium more like MSN with the emoticons packs and message views etc.

Enigmatik · Jun 12, 2006, 12:46 PM

No offense but do any of you people even read posts?
I said i already use Adium but I do not like it as much as the mac version of MSN. Was hoping someone would know when a UB of MSN was avail.

Socially Awkward Solo · Jun 12, 2006, 01:01 PM

What 3rd party alternatives support file transfers 100% though?

production_coordinator · Jun 12, 2006, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by stuppy

No offense but do any of you people even read posts?
I said i already use Adium but I do not like it as much as the mac version of MSN. Was hoping someone would know when a UB of MSN was avail.

Have you tried Adium?

...just kidding

I would guess when the next version of Office comes out...

Enigmatik · Jun 12, 2006, 01:41 PM

lol production_coordinator .. raised a smile out of me

OreoCookie · Jun 12, 2006, 02:32 PM

For what it's worth, you can customize Adium until a UB of MSN messenger is released. Have you tried that?

(And no, we don't know when it will be released

)

monkeybrain · Jun 12, 2006, 04:31 PM

Just curious, what about MSN messenger is it you like? Maybe we can help you find a similar experience.

harrisjamieh · Jun 12, 2006, 04:37 PM

MSN messenger for mac is horrid. Besides, I swear I remember M$ saying that along with Windows Media Player for Mac, they were also dropping support for Messenger for Mac

Enigmatik · Jun 12, 2006, 05:35 PM

I dunno what it is about MSN Messenger I like. I think jsut after using it on the PC for years I have just got set in my ways. Adium is nice don't get me wrong, it just seems so bleh, dunno.

Certain things I miss - and really they are only small things, but they are the things that make me feel comfortable using it :-

I like that I can have my Online and Offline contacts showing at once, and that they are grouped by online and offline status, where as adium shows them all muddled up together.

I cannot tell whether someone is blocked or not from looking at the contact list on adium. Infact there is no real way of checking a block status at all - unless you rght click on their name.

There are probably other things but I cannot be bothered thinking about them. If anyone knows how to solve them points then please feel free to let me know!

I really do hope that MS bring out a UB version of Messenger that has all features that the PC version has -Webcam, Better Smilee Support, voice chat etc.

monkeybrain · Jun 12, 2006, 05:51 PM

You could give AMSN a try, it has many more features that the microsoft version (webcam, those huge smilies etc). It's a bit clunky, but if your Mac is new it should be ok.

http://macupdate.com/info.php/id/14200

Enigmatik · Jun 12, 2006, 05:59 PM

Yuck! Tried aMSN a bit ago and it was wayyyyyy no good

mikemako · 12:09 AM

Yes, During Macworld 2006, Microsoft said that they are working on a Universal Binary of Office and Microsoft Messenger.

OreoCookie · Jun 13, 2006, 01:54 AM

As I thought, you haven't really looked at Adium

Originally Posted by stuppy

I like that I can have my Online and Offline contacts showing at once, and that they are grouped by online and offline status, where as adium shows them all muddled up together.

Go to the menu View > Sort By Status. That should take care of it. You can also customize Sort By Status by selecting the appropriate point in the menu.

If you have more of these small annoyances, chances are pretty good they can be solved within Adium.

Enigmatik · Jun 13, 2006, 04:01 AM

Ohhhhh Mr. CookieMonsterMan....

I was aware of this, HOWEVER.... When you sort by status it then sorts your online contacts into status of Online/away/Busy etc - not alphabetically!.

OreoCookie · Jun 13, 2006, 04:53 AM

As I said, you have to customize your Sort By Status. On the bottom of the corresponding dialog, you merely have to check the box `sort alphabetically within each group'. You can group all unavailable contacts either separately or together, etc.

You simply have to take the time to explore the preferences a little

As I said, Adium is infinitely customizable and the chances that it has the settings you want are nowhere near zero

Enigmatik · Jun 13, 2006, 05:05 AM

Well bugger me!

You are a clever person aint you

That has made me happier already!.

SOLVE MY BLOCK ISSUE!!!!

OreoCookie · Jun 13, 2006, 05:24 AM

I'm still working on omniscience

However, I would advise you to play with the preferences a bit yourself. There are various themes and you can download more or create your own. The Address Book integration is very nice. If you add the screen names to your Address Book, the names are displayed instead of the screen names (if you want

). Furthermore if you have pictures for a person in an address book, you might use that as well to identify a person.

voodoo · Jun 13, 2006, 06:58 AM

Adium is very good, except for file transfers. I don't do much file transfer that way so it doesn't bother me. So as a pure chatting client, nothing beats Adium.

Then again the kids these days think that text-only is so 90's

V

Socially Awkward Solo · Jun 14, 2006, 10:26 AM

Personally I like iChat and jabber. I think Adium is too ugly.

OreoCookie · Jun 14, 2006, 10:39 AM

I think iChat is way, way too bloated. I have a very minimal configuration for Adium which works very nicely, contains most info as a mouse-over and is unobtrusive. This is reason alone for not using iChat. But this, as most things in life, is personal taste

Nai no Kami · Jun 14, 2006, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by Socially Awkward Solo

Personally I like iChat and jabber. I think Adium is too ugly.

I don't.

Socially Awkward Solo · Jun 14, 2006, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by Nai no Kami

I don't.

Is that a theme or a new version cuz the last time I tried it Audium looked nothing like that.

Nai no Kami · Jun 14, 2006, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Socially Awkward Solo

Is that a theme or a new version cuz the last time I tried it Audium looked nothing like that.

Buddy list sports iPhoto theme with "Metal" layout. Message view displays Renkoo theme.
Also, soundset is Ambience. I almost puke when I hear that duck orgasm.

If you like this config, I can send the files to you.

stuppy · Jun 16, 2006, 12:42 PM

Ok I have another one for you.

Multi Chats (where more then one person is in the same converstation) is pretty much impossible on Adium. Well I say impossible, at least its impossible for me to initiate a chat and invite more then one person in. I start with person A, then invite person B, but when person B joins, person A is kicked out.

Explain that one then Adium lovers!