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"Part of a Gapless Album"....why?
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gapless playback setting? I don't see that on my iTunes. Where is it?
     
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Why would you not want gapless? I don't understand the option to disable it.
     
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Problem is, it's off by default, with an option to enable it. And it's a per-track setting, so you have to do it for every album that you need to play gapless. It's an improvement over before, but still annoying...

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Sep 14, 2006, 01:20 AM
 
Originally Posted by porieux
OK, I love the new gapless playback feature. Finally!

However, I don't really understand the point of the 'gapless playback setting'

Wouldn't it make more sense to just play back gapless when a user
is listening to an album in sequence, or at least part of an album in sequence.

When playing songs in random order, crossfade or not depending on pref setting.

Is there anyone who really wants to crossfade when listening to an album?
Yes, this way, if I have to mark some song to be played as gapless, it seems that this "gapless playback" is done with some kind of trick, like it is not actually normal for all songs to be played without gap.
Why all songs are not gapless by default without this setting? Who wants gap?
     
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My guess is that it has something to do with the iPod. It probably taxes the iPod's tiny processor or its hard disk more when you do gapless playback.

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Sep 14, 2006, 03:09 AM
 
Doesn't it play gapless by default? My understanding of the 'Gapless Album' is that if you use crossfade, a gapless album will ignore the crossfade settings and still play gapless.
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Originally Posted by JLL
Doesn't it play gapless by default? My understanding of the 'Gapless Album' is that if you use crossfade, a gapless album will ignore the crossfade settings and still play gapless.
That's my understanding as well. Gapless is the default, but crossfade will override it unless you identify it specifically as a gapless album.

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Originally Posted by CharlesS
Problem is, it's off by default, with an option to enable it. And it's a per-track setting, so you have to do it for every album that you need to play gapless. It's an improvement over before, but still annoying...
It's off in all of my songs and iTunes 7 plays them gapless. The only purpose of this setting seems to be turning off cross-fading.
     
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Originally Posted by TETENAL
It's off in all of my songs and iTunes 7 plays them gapless. The only purpose of this setting seems to be turning off cross-fading.

I've tried to make playlist with one album that I checked as gapless an I turned crossfade option on. This album was still being played with crossfades.
Added: The tags in this album didn't contain any tracks number, after I entered track number information in songs, this "gapless" album doesn't crossfade anymore.

I think it has something to do with eliminating actual gaps, or should we call it "little pauses" between songs which you can hear between songs when you play concerts or some megamixes which are ripped in separate tracks and not like one piece of music (one file).

Also, look at these quotes from Apple:
For iTunes: "Live albums, classical works, or any work that sounds best when it’s continuous, now seamlessly transitions from one song to another"

For iPod: "iPod supports gapless playback that seamlessly transitions from one song to another." - And as we know there still no crossfade playback on iPod, so gapless on iPod definitely doesn't have to do anything with crossfade.
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Originally Posted by TETENAL
It's off in all of my songs and iTunes 7 plays them gapless. The only purpose of this setting seems to be turning off cross-fading.
Exactly right.

The "Gapless playback" checkbox for a track is only available if Crossfade playback is enabled. If crossfading is disabled, all tracks play gapless.

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Sep 14, 2006, 11:12 AM
 
Exactly.

I selected all tracks in my library and tagged them "gapless". This way, if I'm party-shuffling, they still crossfade, but if I'm playing the album all the way through, they do not.
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Originally Posted by TETENAL
It's off in all of my songs and iTunes 7 plays them gapless. The only purpose of this setting seems to be turning off cross-fading.
What does the new iPod do though?

Have they released an iPod update for the 5Gs that adds gapless playback yet so someone can check? Or is the gapless feature only available on the brand-new iPods just announced?
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Originally Posted by CharlesS
What does the new iPod do though?

Have they released an iPod update for the 5Gs that adds gapless playback yet so someone can check? Or is the gapless feature only available on the brand-new iPods just announced?
You can play gapless albums on the 5G iPods.

Honestly, I have no idea if the 30 Gig iPod is any different than the old one except with a brighter screen and a new Firmware...
     
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I can give a reason why: you might want crossfade playback between songs in an album that doesn't have the songs pre-crossfaded. That is, most albums.

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Here is Apple explanation for gapless playback:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=304362

and interesting one on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gapless_playback
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Originally Posted by tooki
I can give a reason why: you might want crossfade playback between songs in an album that doesn't have the songs pre-crossfaded. That is, most albums.

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Nope. I don't listen to studio albums straight-through unless I'm going for the CD experience.
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