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dreamsINdigital · Sep 27, 2006, 01:06 PM

Messenger for Mac 6.0 makes it easy to take advantage of the full power of instant messaging, and it is a Universal application built to run on both PowerPC-based and Intel-based Macs. This update allows Messenger for Mac users to:

* Chat with Yahoo! Messenger contacts
* Add a status message that your personal contacts can see
* Share what you are listening to in iTunes with your personal contacts
* Create, send, and receive custom emoticons with personal contacts
* Send and receive custom animated emoticons with personal contacts
* Search for conversation histories using Spotlight
* Check the spelling in your instant messages

Mactopia: Download: Microsoft Messenger for Mac 6.0

No video support.

SSharon · Sep 27, 2006, 01:56 PM

this hardly deserves an exclamation point in the title.
if it had video on the other hand...

Visnaut · Sep 27, 2006, 02:02 PM

Any screenshots of the interface? Just curious to see before I can download it later...

dru · 09:58 PM

WARNING: It "upgrades" your conversation history. May take a *long* time, no way to cancel.

WARNING: It disabled automatically save conversation history, I had to manually reenable that in preferences.

WARNING: It changed my custom display picture to the default.

It seems slower. Yet another craptastic update from MBU. I'm overjoyed.

- - e r i k - - · Sep 27, 2006, 07:39 PM

No one cares. Adium is far better for the basic stuff that MSN supports (even *gasp* custom emoticons). And aMSN and Mercury has had MSN webcam support for ages (though their clients are craptastic otherwise). But it goes to show that if open source hackers can get it working there's absolutely no reason the mothership itself shouldn't be able to.

dru · Sep 27, 2006, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -

No one cares

Speak for yourself please.

And, fyi, this MSN 6 supports custom icons by default.

dru · Sep 27, 2006, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by Visnaut

Any screenshots of the interface? Just curious to see before I can download it later...

There's lovely (HA!) "Windows Live" branding all over the place.

rickey939 · Sep 27, 2006, 08:40 PM

Yuck.

tooki · Sep 27, 2006, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by dru

It seems slower. Yet another craptastic update from MBU. I'm overjoyed.

IIRC, MS Messenger is not a product of the Mac BU, which is pretty much only responsible for Office anymore.

tooki

Amorya · Sep 27, 2006, 08:49 PM

I believe it is, tooki. Windows Media Player was the last non-MBU Mac product from MS, as far as I am aware.

zerock · Sep 28, 2006, 11:44 AM

not that bad, it could be better though.

kick52 · Sep 28, 2006, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by dru

Speak for yourself please.

And, fyi, this MSN 6 supports custom icons by default.

how come your thing is smooth but mine is brushed metal?

shapeshifter?

tooki · Sep 28, 2006, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Amorya

I believe it is, tooki. Windows Media Player was the last non-MBU Mac product from MS, as far as I am aware.

Ah, ok. I thought Messenger wasn't, either, since it and WMP seemed to share the same (crappy) design ethos.

tooki

Dark Helmet · Sep 28, 2006, 03:31 PM

I hate to say it but...

It went from suck to blow

harrisjamieh · Sep 28, 2006, 04:46 PM

I still prefer Adium, but what I do like in this app is

1) You can see emoticons in screen names
2) the emoticons use the standard keyboard shortcuts etc
3) The 'now playing iTunes thing works properly, unlike in Adium where I cant get it to work...

houstonmacbro · Sep 28, 2006, 06:14 PM

still no video? that is lame.

Art Vandelay · Sep 28, 2006, 07:28 PM

It's coming. A/V is in flux on the Windows side so they're waiting till that side is finalized before implementing it on the Mac.

Mac Mojo : Messenger: haves and hA/Ve nots

zerock · Sep 28, 2006, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by harrisjamieh

I still prefer Adium, but what I do like in this app is

1) You can see emoticons in screen names

i dont think this is possible.

- - e r i k - - · Sep 28, 2006, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by dru

Speak for yourself please.

And, fyi, this MSN 6 supports custom icons by default.

You prefer an inferior product with Windows live branding to a lightweight client that does all that MSN does and more? And that's infinitely customizable to boot? Guess you are in your full right to roll your eyes, but the joke's on you.

dru · Sep 29, 2006, 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by kick52

how come your thing is smooth but mine is brushed metal?

shapeshifter?

No idea; I'm not using shapshifter.

dru · Sep 29, 2006, 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -

You prefer an inferior product with Windows live branding to a lightweight client that does all that MSN does and more? And that's infinitely customizable to boot? Guess you are in your full right to roll your eyes, but the joke's on you.

*sigh* Well, some of us care what's doing on in the official client even if you don't. I've used 3rd party clients and simply wasn't happy with them.

The "Windows Live" branding can be changed by swapping out the .PNG's for the prior release's, you can also use Resourcerer to swap out the PICTs as well. That's what did. It's 'better with the butterfly'.

kick52 · Sep 29, 2006, 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by zerock

i dont think this is possible.

yes it is. you can use codes like (u) and stuff. so now, all screen names look like C.

its really annoying.

philm · Sep 29, 2006, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -

No one cares.

I care. Do I count? Not for myself, but my 9 year old daughter wants to do the MSN thing with all her mates and she wants her daddy to make the 'winks' work and whatever other pointless stuff they have on there. Mercury is tough to suss out for a 9 year old, so anything this upgrade does to keep her happy so I can keep enjoying my cup of tea is most welcome.

dru · Sep 29, 2006, 11:19 PM

Anyone no longer seeing the custom font of the person you're chatting with ignored in this version? I can switch to their font and we both can see it, and I see their chosen color but no longer their chosen font.

I switch back to the prior release of messenger and everything shows up as it should.

I get what looks like Lucida Grande instead of their custom font.

kick52 · Sep 30, 2006, 01:09 AM

...and no video!!!

with all those girls wanting to strip in front of me!

- - e r i k - - · Sep 30, 2006, 01:11 AM

Sounds like you are real happy with the official client there Dru

- - e r i k - - · Sep 30, 2006, 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by philm

I care. Do I count? Not for myself, but my 9 year old daughter wants to do the MSN thing with all her mates and she wants her daddy to make the 'winks' work and whatever other pointless stuff they have on there. Mercury is tough to suss out for a 9 year old, so anything this upgrade does to keep her happy so I can keep enjoying my cup of tea is most welcome.

Winks aren't in the official client either.

I am merely saying that out of the box Adium has a better user interface, is easier to use, has more features, faster file transfers and is more lightweight than the official client. It is in every respect an inferior product for their own protocol which is sad and shameful.

kick52 · Sep 30, 2006, 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by dru

No idea; I'm not using shapshifter.

sorry for double posting but yours looks like this:

but mine looks like this:

maybe because its the compression in yours?

- - e r i k - - · Sep 30, 2006, 01:19 AM

UNO

kick52 · Sep 30, 2006, 01:59 AM

thought so.

Spliff · Sep 30, 2006, 03:45 AM

*oops*

sushiism · Sep 30, 2006, 07:06 AM

I'm usually highly critical of MSN Messenger updates, I mean one of them made dragging files to the window crash it every other time, then the one before this killed proxy support for certain configs that worked fine for years.

But this one seems a step in the right direction, its much faster, spell checking, custom emoticons. I mean its a bit late coming cos me and my friends changed to adium last year but its still pretty good as far as an ms app goes.

You'll never get webcams because that part of msn is code from logitech cos of some stupid bundle deal when they first put it in. MS are great at making mistakes like that (graphics chip in the xbox 1 was at a fixed price, so even after dropping like £200 off the price it was still costing them the same for the chips even though they were much cheaper to make. ****ing idiots)

Mithras · Sep 30, 2006, 08:54 AM

I think they should change the branding to "Windows Lives!" That would lend a pop-culture conspiratorial air to the whole thing.

Art Vandelay · Sep 30, 2006, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by sushiism

You'll never get webcams because that part of msn is code from logitech cos of some stupid bundle deal when they first put it in. MS are great at making mistakes like that (graphics chip in the xbox 1 was at a fixed price, so even after dropping like £200 off the price it was still costing them the same for the chips even though they were much cheaper to make. ****ing idiots)

MBU disagrees with you.

http://blogs.msdn.com/macmojo/archiv...27/774149.aspx

Eug Wanker · Sep 30, 2006, 12:24 PM

Meh. I won't even bother installing it until it gets video.

DuckRacer1 · Sep 30, 2006, 06:12 PM

Why all the haters? For me, the custom smiles and the ability to actually see what other people's fonts are, among other compatibility things, made me switch from Adium. Granted, I don't have an iSight and such (since I have a Mac Mini), but Adium just doesn't have all the little nice touches that I really want.

voodoo · Sep 30, 2006, 07:43 PM

What is Winsows Live account?

I'm not too hip on Microsith branding.

V

- - e r i k - - · Sep 30, 2006, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by DuckRacer1

Why all the haters? For me, the custom smiles and the ability to actually see what other people's fonts are, among other compatibility things, made me switch from Adium. Granted, I don't have an iSight and such (since I have a Mac Mini), but Adium just doesn't have all the little nice touches that I really want.

Adium supports both custom smilies and fonts.

houstonmacbro · Sep 30, 2006, 07:50 PM

i still like adium because i can chat with multiple yahoo accounts and multiple msn accounts. it really is still the best.

dru · Sep 30, 2006, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by kick52

sorry for double posting but yours looks like this:

but mine looks like this:

maybe because its the compression in yours?

Nope. I even downloaded a new copy and it still shows up without the brushed look. No idea how to explain it. I'm not using Shapeshifter or anything like that.

dru · Sep 30, 2006, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by voodoo

What is Winsows Live account?

I'm not too hip on Microsith branding.

V

They renamed MSN (Hotmail) to Windows Live.

DuckRacer1 · Sep 30, 2006, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -

Adium supports both custom smilies and fonts.

Really? How? I can't see custom smilies that people send me, nor can I see custom fonts. Example:

Someone sends me a

smilie. It outputs in Adium as : lol : (without the spaces).

Someone uses a font, say, Courier, that's blue and bolded. I only see it in Lucida Grande, and only bolded.

Is there some setting I don't know about that changes it so it works flawlessly?

- - e r i k - - · Sep 30, 2006, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by DuckRacer1

Really? How? I can't see custom smilies that people send me, nor can I see custom fonts. Example:

Someone sends me a

smilie. It outputs in Adium as : lol : (without the spaces).

Someone uses a font, say, Courier, that's blue and bolded. I only see it in Lucida Grande, and only bolded.

Is there some setting I don't know about that changes it so it works flawlessly?

Check this setting:

… and these:

Also you might want to make sure that the MSN icons are installed: