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jbleisure · Oct 15, 2006, 01:04 PM

I'm trailing the 30 day free trail. Love the interface and the different views.but not sure what it would be like to use full time? I'm not sure it is integrated enough into mail & iCal.

Anyone use it/have any feedback on it?

CatOne · Oct 16, 2006, 01:16 PM

I have a tough time taking notes with it. I used OD4Contact, its predecessor, and ended up using MarketCircle's Daylite, as of their shipping of version 3.0 as it worked a bunch better for me (the 1.x version was a bit of a UI nightmare for me).

Though I still have OD4Contact, and a license for it, it's not worth the upgrade cost given that I now have so much inertia in Daylite.

jbleisure · Oct 17, 2006, 12:55 PM

There wasn't enough osx integration for me in Daylite (Mainly a lack of syncing with iCal and address book) - same thing with contactizer pro!!

Lets hope there is a native solution in Leopard!

CatOne · Oct 17, 2006, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by jbleisure

There wasn't enough osx integration for me in Daylite (Mainly a lack of syncing with iCal and address book) - same thing with contactizer pro!!

Lets hope there is a native solution in Leopard!

Daylite syncs just fine with Address Book -- but it's a manual process that you have to initiate from the Daylite menu. I do it a few times a week -- works fine.

It's true the sync with iCal is not good -- it's one-way, which means you certainly can't use both to enter and edit stuff without running into issues.

Daylite 3.5 is supposed to fix this when it drops Panther support and gets support for 10.4's sync services. I'm eagerly anticipating this ;-)

As for Contactizer Pro -- I thought it directly used the Address Book database -- so there shouldn't be any sync necessary there at all. I think the tasks and calendar may not be fully integrated -- probably because Contactizer Pro stores more information than can be completely contained in iCal.

If you *really* want a CRM-like application that only uses Apple's apps as back-end databases, you could look at CRM4Mac.

altimac · 10:30 AM

As CatOne said, Contactizer Pro contact database is THE Apple AddressBook database, so it is always in Sync, and in sync with Mail.app, iChat etc...

Tasks and Events are not synced with iCal, though this will come in a next revision... before the end of this year.

Taking notes with Contactizer is now easier than ever: simply double click on "Note" in the details view, and it will be immediatly editable, ready to type!

Hope this helps.
And by the way Objective Decision opened a forum about Contactizer: Objective Decision Forums

altimac · Oct 19, 2006, 09:59 AM

I'm trailing the 30 day free trail. Love the interface and the different views.but not sure what it would be like to use full time? I'm not sure it is integrated enough into mail & iCal.

Anyone use it/have any feedback on it?

Contactizer is deeply integrated with Mail:
Email are synchronized, in real time and you can add many attributes to them, link them to contacts, tasks and events. The searching is much more efficient than in Mail because there are much more criterias.

jbleisure · Oct 20, 2006, 03:57 AM

Points taken...I'm over worked here and can't really take in getting to know a new app like contactizer pro fully.

I didn't realsie (obviously) the real time integration with imail.

What about address book and ical though.

I want to be able to work in any of these apps and have it real time syncronize. Until that's possible I won't really consider using it full time.

altimac · Oct 20, 2006, 04:11 AM

Contactizer Pro uses the very same database than Apple AddressBook, so it's better than sync, it is ALWAYS synced with no effort. It is even integrated with iChat, Mail etc... because they use the same database!

Contactizer and iCal are not synced for the moment (only import/export), but Contactizer does almost everything iCal does, so why sync with iCal ? use Contactizer Pro instead and forget iCal! (well, OK Contactizer does not manage publish/subscribe yet as iCal do)
You can import iCal data of course to begin with your previous data...

jbleisure · Oct 20, 2006, 08:09 AM

Contactizer does almost everything iCal does, so why sync with iCal ? use Contactizer Pro instead and forget iCal!

That won't work for me because sometimes if I am at home say I will want to use/change/update iCal without opening an app that has all my business/work info.

But when they sort that I will certainly try it all out.

jbleisure · Oct 20, 2006, 08:12 AM

That said though - I really like it - looks like the solution I have wanted ever since I realised that Entourage was a pile of ****...the time it quit and lost ALL my data .....that was the lesson that taught me to have a comprehensive backupin place!