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I WAS the One · Dec 8, 2006, 11:08 AM

it is normal or something's wrong? I let the Mac on all night and when I woke up I am seeing this beach ball of Hell floating around for a while... some people said that is just normal and that I need to wait a couple of hours and thats it... any thought? any way it still in the background at the same time I'm writing this...

Big Mac · Dec 8, 2006, 11:12 AM

Is it spinning or just static? If it's not moving and you can use the application normally, it just means that whatever program you're in forgot to update the pointer state - that happens sometimes. If you switch to other applications you'll get the pointer back.

I WAS the One · Dec 9, 2006, 04:19 PM

Hey! it turns out that it did the work and eject the DVD finished! I thinks it is normal to see the beach ball of hell spining around in the middle of the process.. so thanx anyway!

tkmd · Dec 9, 2006, 09:37 PM

Yes unfortunately it is normal when encoding. I really wish apple would fix this (up the threading?) I cant even minimize the window. The iApps are becoming more an more windows like.....

I WAS the One · Dec 10, 2006, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by tkmd

The iApps are becoming more an more windows like.....

Yeah.. I know what you mean, Steve Jobs' priority now is increase global sales and that means more money, and that is the same pattern that Bill Gates used. I miss the time when Apple was strong because of the quality of their products, today a Mac Pro it more like a PC with more power and not like a better Mac... can you feel me?

cbrfanatic · Dec 11, 2006, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by I WAS the One

Yeah.. I know what you mean, Steve Jobs' priority now is increase global sales and that means more money, and that is the same pattern that Bill Gates used. I miss the time when Apple was strong because of the quality of their products, today a Mac Pro it more like a PC with more power and not like a better Mac... can you feel me?

i know what ya mean, thats why im glad i still have my 15" ppc powerbook, back when a mac was a MAC, feel me? lol

I WAS the One · Dec 11, 2006, 07:39 PM

I still wonder why nobody keep designing stuff for Mac OS 9, it was a solid OS though... I was reading iWoz, and Woz actually said that his son discover how to fix the crashing environment with simple steps that involve erasing all MSN apps from scratch. the bug was in because of that and his son Jesse was the one who figure it out! so, NEXT was a no no acording to Woz, and OS 9 would be the same as powerful as OS X without the need of Unix and will be a whole solid OS today. Anyway that's what the book says, and I'm just wondering why we don't start designing apps as solid as the iLife one for OS 9 and keep using old g3 and g4 machines with a classic environment just for the fun of it!?

tkmd · Dec 11, 2006, 07:54 PM

Its not that OS 9 was better, it was just more easier to use. However, OS X is stable (OS 9 was not), had protected memory and system wide multiprocessing ability. Given this trade off I would choose OS x. However, the problem here is that the new applications written for OSX have more OS X flavor to them than the ones that where ported over from OS 9. Every new OS release steps away from classic mac os feel and closer to a windows like feel. For example it burns me up that new apps (backup 3.1 and other apps) quit the program when I close its window. What I want is Steve Jobs to hire Jeff Raskin back (Developer of the Human interface and the father of the classic mac os) to head up design for the mac os. But this is getting off topic from the OP. Sorry.

I WAS the One · Dec 13, 2006, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by tkmd

Its not that OS 9 was better, it was just more easier to use. However, OS X is stable (OS 9 was not), had protected memory and system wide multiprocessing ability.

you said it yourself. More easy to use and it's true, I remember when something went wrong with my Mac, I'd just erase the extension, the control panel and the preference document and everything was normal again. Today it's not that easy. even with AppZapper you need to do a couple of things more to eliminate everything you don't want inside your Mac. OS 9 would be stable if Apple give Woz a chance according to him, to explain how to make it stable. and memory protected could be an OS 9 improvement also, remember the force quit comand? it was a far out feature that needed little work to be finished. Maybe the OS 10 today would be a better OS than OS X now.