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Torrent vts_ play great on DVD Player, won't burn w/toast
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Jan 23, 2007, 12:29 PM
 
This is very frustrating, I can't figure out why these look fantastic on my G5, menus all work, flawless playback, extras everything.

But Toast can't pick this up as having a valid structure or something like that.
Any other way to check? Never had a problem until these torrented movies come thru and go to burn.....
     
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Jan 29, 2007, 01:36 PM
 
if you are working with a DVD structure, you need two folders, VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS (which is usually empty). Make sure you burn as Data/DVD-ROM. Make sure just those two folders are being burned, nothing else.
     
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Jan 29, 2007, 01:59 PM
 
Oh I've always been good about Toasting VTS folders and DL-full length etc. on my SOny 400 Disc carousel.

It's torrented DVD's I'm burning, my Mac now plays them but they arent' recognized in my DVD player.

They read and play fine on the G5! That's what's weird. And it's only Torrented V_TS to DVD that has a problem. Weird huh?
     
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Jan 29, 2007, 08:03 PM
 
NTSC/PAL problem?
     
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Jan 30, 2007, 09:10 PM
 
Gee, uh, ........

How can you tell? Handbreak, Toast nor DVD Player can I find the format!
     
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Jan 30, 2007, 09:11 PM
 
And btw, does DVD Player read both of the formats? While a Sony DVD player only plays (recognizes) one? It just rotates to the next disc in the slot.
     
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Jan 31, 2007, 03:01 PM
 
NTSC is 720x480, 29.9776879238479283742 fps (or 24 sometimes)
PAL is 720x576, 25 fps

Also, if the DVD is not from USA, it's probably PAL.

Computers don't care about NTSC/PAL. Set-top players and TVs do. In USA it's generally NTSC only. Elsewhere most devices support both (as I understand it) but you're best off checking for explicit support before buying.

NTSC is derisively called Never The Same Color. It sucks. I have no idea why we use it.
     
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Feb 19, 2007, 11:29 AM
 
Originally Posted by Uncle Skeleton View Post
NTSC/PAL problem?

Again, another movie, and wouldn't play. except in DVD Player.
Then I looked and found DIsc Info, whadya know, its's PAL!

SO...how can a VT folder with a movie in PAL be burned with Toast as NTSC???
     
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Feb 20, 2007, 02:13 AM
 
Originally Posted by Uncle Skeleton View Post
NTSC is 720x480, 29.9776879238479283742 fps (or 24 sometimes)
PAL is 720x576, 25 fps

Also, if the DVD is not from USA, it's probably PAL.

Computers don't care about NTSC/PAL. Set-top players and TVs do. In USA it's generally NTSC only. Elsewhere most devices support both (as I understand it) but you're best off checking for explicit support before buying.

NTSC is derisively called Never The Same Color. It sucks. I have no idea why we use it.
Because American power systems run at 60 Hz?
     
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Feb 20, 2007, 11:45 AM
 
They seem to handle film at 24 just fine
     
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Feb 20, 2007, 11:55 AM
 
NTSC uses less bandwidth than PAL - put simply, with NTSC you get more channels but lower quality, with PAL you get fewer channels but higher quality. (I guess it's the American way to choose quantity over quality...) For over-the-air broadcasts, it's a fair tradeoff. With cables that is a moot point, because the bandwidth available is so much higher.

(If you want to be picky, you should compare the "A" and "B" black and white systems that NTSC and PAL are based on, but the point above still stands).

NTSC (A) uses 30 frames per second indirectly because of the 60 Hz power system. The highpowered studio lamps in early TV studios flickered noticeably in sync with the power frequency, so the frame rate was set to match - same in Europe, where PAL's (B) 25 frames per second were set to match the 50 Hz power system.
     
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Feb 20, 2007, 02:32 PM
 
did you steal this?

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