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Feb 6, 2007, 04:11 PM
 
Why can't Safari handle Myspace pages? Scrolling is extremely choppy and there is huge lag for clicking links. Why is this? OmniWeb uses the same engine and works 100x better than Safari.

I might end up going back to Camino or OmniWeb...
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Feb 6, 2007, 04:28 PM
 
MySpace run's great on Safari -- it's the people who dazzle up their profiles with tons of that Java, JavaScript, etc. crap that really bogs it down.

Sorry, don't know really what to tell you but I feel your pain, and I have not tried OmniWeb with it but I get the same result with FireFox.
     
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Feb 6, 2007, 06:56 PM
 
Originally Posted by CheesePuff View Post
MySpace run's great on Safari -- it's the people who dazzle up their profiles with tons of that Java, JavaScript, etc. crap that really bogs it down.

Sorry, don't know really what to tell you but I feel your pain, and I have not tried OmniWeb with it but I get the same result with FireFox.
Well that's the thing though. My page is jazzed up with transparencies and images. It's totally custom. Now when I go view it with Safari, it lags so bad I might as well quit. However, with OmniWeb it works fine and scrolling is perfectly smooth. They both use the same rendering engine, but I don't get why one is better than the other.
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Feb 6, 2007, 09:57 PM
 
OmniWeb uses a much newer version of WebKit than Safari does.
     
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Feb 6, 2007, 10:20 PM
 
That must be it then. I don't get why people use Safari, it seems so far behind other browsers...

Looks like I'm going back to Camino.
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Feb 6, 2007, 10:37 PM
 
I don't know why anyone would view your website, it seems so far behind the other sites.

I'm sorry, that was harsh.

It's the nature of development. You focus on the mainstream and when you've gotten that down you start looking at the edge cases. Apparently your website is too far to the edge of Safari's performance envelope. As you can see, the continued development of WebKit you see in OmniWeb has improved that. As will Safari in Leopard.
     
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Feb 6, 2007, 10:44 PM
 
I wonder how hard it would be for Apple to simply drop in Webkit to the current version of Safari and give us all a nice performance boost? Can't be that hard.

Oh, that's right. Serbanes-Oxley (or whatever.) Damn them!!
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Feb 7, 2007, 09:01 AM
 
Originally Posted by Thinine View Post
I don't know why anyone would view your website, it seems so far behind the other sites.

I'm sorry, that was harsh.

It's the nature of development. You focus on the mainstream and when you've gotten that down you start looking at the edge cases. Apparently your website is too far to the edge of Safari's performance envelope. As you can see, the continued development of WebKit you see in OmniWeb has improved that. As will Safari in Leopard.
About 150 of my friends do, but that's not the point

Well I guess since Apple doesn't want to give us the latest WebKit available, I will just switch to the newest Camino build until Leopard comes out and I'll try out Safari again. I really like OmniWeb, but their "tabs" drawer thing is pissing me off.
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Feb 7, 2007, 09:08 AM
 
Originally Posted by drnkn_stylz View Post
Apple doesn't want to give us the latest WebKit available
http://nightly.webkit.org/
     
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Feb 7, 2007, 11:18 AM
 
Originally Posted by TETENAL View Post
um...how do i use this?
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Feb 7, 2007, 11:25 AM
 
You download it, copy it to your applications folder, and doubleclick it.


brokenjago: quite difficult, actually. WebCore/JavaScriptCore have changed immensely in the last two years of development.
     
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Feb 7, 2007, 11:53 AM
 
Originally Posted by Catfish_Man View Post
You download it, copy it to your applications folder, and doubleclick it.

yah, i tried that; crashes. maybe does not like pithhelmet, flip4mac, forget me not...
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Feb 7, 2007, 12:08 PM
 
Originally Posted by fisherKing View Post
yah, i tried that; crashes. maybe does not like pithhelmet, flip4mac, forget me not...
Yeah same here.

I would say try out the latest Camino build. I have been using it today and it is amazing. It loads pages WAY faster than Safari, it can handle intense Myspace pages easy as pie, and it's lightweight and simplistic looking like Safari.
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Feb 7, 2007, 12:31 PM
 
Originally Posted by fisherKing View Post
yah, i tried that; crashes. maybe does not like pithhelmet, flip4mac, forget me not...
It works fine with Flip4Mac.

Maybe Pithhelmet, forget me not... is the reason why you have problems with Safari in the first place.
     
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Feb 7, 2007, 12:54 PM
 
I never had problems with Pith with 2.0.3, but the nightlies have crashed on me, so maybe they don't like each other that much.
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Feb 7, 2007, 01:00 PM
 
PithHelmet is well known for messing Safari up, particularly nightly builds of Safari.
     
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Feb 7, 2007, 01:18 PM
 
Originally Posted by TETENAL View Post
It works fine with Flip4Mac.

Maybe Pithhelmet, forget me not... is the reason why you have problems with Safari in the first place.

me? i am not having problems with safari at all...
just following this thread, wanted to try the latest webkit.

otherwise, all is well...
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