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Which app can remove the rosetta parts of an app ?
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Mar 27, 2007, 01:10 PM
 
I recall someone had an app that cut out lots of the crud in Universal apps to save space and make them start faster, but the name escapes me
     
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Mar 27, 2007, 01:30 PM
 
Monolingual, XSlimmer, TrimTheFat, to name a few:

Monolingual
XSlimmer
TrimTheFat
     
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Mar 27, 2007, 01:46 PM
 
sweet! thank you!
     
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Mar 27, 2007, 05:04 PM
 
Warning: I don't know about the other two, but Monolingual removes all PPC code on the entire system, including all the libraries and system frameworks. Since Rosetta requires the PPC versions of the system frameworks, once you run Monolingual to strip PPC code, you will no longer be able to run any PPC apps in Rosetta at all until you do an Archive and Install.

In other words, I recommend leaving it alone!

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Mar 27, 2007, 05:21 PM
 
I don't think Monolingual has to strip the entire system — you can choose a more limited set of files — but yeah, if you strip the system frameworks, you'll totally hose Rosetta.
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Mar 27, 2007, 06:25 PM
 
Originally Posted by kmkkid View Post
Monolingual, XSlimmer, TrimTheFat, to name a few:

Monolingual
XSlimmer
TrimTheFat
Monolingual can corrupt your OS.

I use TrimTheFat because it makes a back up of apps before trimming them. It also downloads an up to date list of apps that should not be trimmed otherwise they'll break. After trimming my apps I saved 1.5GBs and they launch faster and eat less RAM! My computer felt like a G4 Mac felt before UB apps came out! The only app TrimTheFat broke was DriveGenius, but that was easily remedied by restoring from the back up it made.

TrimTheFat is free too!
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Mar 27, 2007, 07:18 PM
 
While TrimTheFat is a fine app, it won't give you RAM savings or any real speed improvement. The PPC code is never executed or loaded into RAM on Intel Macs (unless you've explicitly set the app to use Rosetta).

It saves you disk space. Nothing more, and nothing less.
     
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Mar 28, 2007, 03:32 AM
 
Originally Posted by mfbernstein View Post
While TrimTheFat is a fine app, it won't give you RAM savings or any real speed improvement. The PPC code is never executed or loaded into RAM on Intel Macs (unless you've explicitly set the app to use Rosetta).

It saves you disk space. Nothing more, and nothing less.
I know, but for some reason those apps that were trimmed the most are launching faster and my computer seems to be more responsive better than it was yesterday. Beats me. I haven't rebooted or anything except use TrimTheFat.
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Mar 28, 2007, 10:24 AM
 
I have it confirmed that apps will launch faster if you trim foreign code from them because the binary sent from the hard drive to the CPU and system memory has a smaller footprint. With a Universal Binary, it is only once it gets to the system memory where the OS has loaded that OS X will choose and execute native code (or Rosetta, which is also loaded in memory, will run the PPC binary).

Launch times are improved more for larger binaries (say 50MBs and higher in size) that have been reduced a lot. Small apps won't see any noticable change.

Of course, application performance won't see any improvements. Trimming apps will save HDD space and improve launch times for large apps only.
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