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DigitalEl · Nov 6, 2007, 05:15 PM

In the source pane, along the left side of Mail, I have 4 instances of "ON MY MAC > Outbox."

The complete picture:

MAILBOXES
Inbox
Sent
Trash
Junk

REMINDERS
On My Mac
Dot Mac

SMART MAILBOXES
Priority Save

ON MY MAC
Outbox

DOT MAC
Family
Friends
Marketplace
Work

ON MY MAC
Outbox

ON MY MAC
Outbox

ON MY MAC
Outbox
________________

What's with the "ON MY MAC > Outbox" thing? As I understand it, Outbox is for stuff that's currently being sent... Which, with high-speed, shouldn't be that often. Most e-mails are sent instantly. Only a big media file takes long enough to ride in the Outbox for any length of time.

When I delete 1 of the 4 outboxes, they ALL instantly disappear, only to reappear a day or two later.

mduell · Nov 6, 2007, 06:08 PM

How many email accounts do you have?

DigitalEl · Nov 6, 2007, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by mduell

How many email accounts do you have?

Great question. Just one.

besson3c · Nov 6, 2007, 06:17 PM

Are your accounts IMAP or POP based? Is there anything in these folders? How many email accounts do you have setup?

DigitalEl · Nov 6, 2007, 06:44 PM

IMAP .. again only one e-mail account... A .Mac account with Cox as my ISP.

Beepcake · Nov 7, 2007, 02:08 AM

It does this to me when .Mac gets it's knickers in a twist with synchronising accounts. Usually quitting mail and reloading makes them vanish for a day or so, then they come back. The only way I've managed to stop it is to reconfigure .Mac on each of my machines until it sorts itself out.

Fusion · Nov 7, 2007, 03:28 AM

Just go through and delete all those boxes... you've obviously encountered some weird bug. If they're on your mac and empty then no harm will come from just getting rid of them.

Nuke em'

ph0ust · Nov 7, 2007, 09:47 AM

i've been using mail.app exclusively for work and personal email for about 5 years. the leopard upgrade, while having some really cool mail features, is pretty buggy in my opinion. all sorts of little, non critical, things annoy me. for example, as of the leopard upgrade, all my sent mail is now stored in my sent items folder as an unread item (bolds the folder and lists number of "newly" sent items like the inbox does with new mail). its sent mail.... not only do i not "read" it, but i composed it.... so technically its already been "read".

anyone know how to get rid of this?????

at least they aren't show stoppers, but its still annoying.

Beepcake · Nov 7, 2007, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by ph0ust

i've been using mail.app exclusively for work and personal email for about 5 years. the leopard upgrade, while having some really cool mail features, is pretty buggy in my opinion. all sorts of little, non critical, things annoy me. for example, as of the leopard upgrade, all my sent mail is now stored in my sent items folder as an unread item (bolds the folder and lists number of "newly" sent items like the inbox does with new mail). its sent mail.... not only do i not "read" it, but i composed it.... so technically its already been "read".

anyone know how to get rid of this?????

at least they aren't show stoppers, but its still annoying.

Certainly doesn't do that to me

DigitalEl · Nov 7, 2007, 06:14 PM

ph0ust, I haven't seen your sent mail bug, either. That would annoy the hell out of me.

And Beepcake is right, too. The multiple "ON MY MAC > Outbox" instances are definitely .Mac-related. Syncing has been pretty spotty - at best - on Leopard so far.

besson3c · Nov 7, 2007, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by ph0ust

i've been using mail.app exclusively for work and personal email for about 5 years. the leopard upgrade, while having some really cool mail features, is pretty buggy in my opinion. all sorts of little, non critical, things annoy me. for example, as of the leopard upgrade, all my sent mail is now stored in my sent items folder as an unread item (bolds the folder and lists number of "newly" sent items like the inbox does with new mail). its sent mail.... not only do i not "read" it, but i composed it.... so technically its already been "read".

anyone know how to get rid of this?????

at least they aren't show stoppers, but its still annoying.

I definitely agree with this.

I think Apple is great at developing great UIs and nice end user features, but some of their low level code in these apps is horrible. OS X Mail constantly locks up for me in accessing large mailboxes, often performs poorly, and seems to want to cache and sync things over and over again that it has done in the past. It almost seems like Mail is operating off of message numbers rather than UIDs

ph0ust · Nov 9, 2007, 03:24 PM

yea, i really wish i could figure out how to stop it from doing that with my sent mail.

a separate annoyance that is at least partially apple's fault (i think) is with the rss reader in mail. i have all my feeds in safari and mail (given that option when bookmarking them in safari). feeds from the likes of new york times, wall street journal and such often seem to update unrelated content on those feeds. safari ignores this, but mail.app pushes them back into mail as if they are unread (although they say "Updated"). it is really the same feed so i don't want to read it again, but i have to continually re-select those so that it shows that it is read. LAME! i wish it just worked like safari's and ignores it once you read it, regardless of whether it is "update" with meaningless crap or not.