[bormooski]

so what the hell is up with quicken mac 2008. first intuit says that they are waiting for leopard to ship, and now nearly 6 months and two point releases later, still nothing. does intuit think that we forgot about it? wtf?

and before we all go on this silly little tangent about how much quicken mac sux when compared to the windows counterpart... we already know that, so please stay on point. i don't want to have to log onto another machine, or vmware/parallels/boot camp my way into windows, and i definately do not plan on having a dedicated machine just to pay my friggen bills. i use and mac, and i want quicken on it.

so back to my point... where the hell is my quicken 08?!?!?!

[bormooski]

oh, and quicken online is not an option either. ive tried it and it sux.

[turtle777]

I was wondering myself, too.

OTOH, Quicken 2007 is running fine, I'm not sure I'd even upgrade. What killer features does Q2008 promise ?

-t

[MacosNerd]

Based on this ars article there will not be a quicken 2008 but a new product later this year.

[mduell]

MacRumors has info from MWSF and says it's expected in fall 2008 which probably means 2009.

[64stang06]

I just hope this means that it will import from PC files just fine. Highly unlikely though.

[selowitch]

Well, there's always Moneydance. What I don't understand is: 1) Why Quicken doesn't provide live two-way syncing of your transactions online in real time? and 2) Why is it so hard for two Macs to work on the same Quicken datafile (e.g., on a home network)?

[iggypop]

i'd recommend iBank, but (full-disclosure) i'm biased - i work for the developer. well, i still recommend iBank as a quicken alternative, but my larger point here is that no one is stuck with quicken on the mac. there are lots of choices out there, some of which are developed specifically for OS X, will import your previous quicken data, and can be tried for free. it may take some effort to switch, but ultimately that's a better path than feeling frustrated (and stuck) with quicken.

[kman42]

And the new Quicken won't do investments. How stupid is that?

[jackhlt]

I have new Mac and want to be able to transfer my Quicken files on my old PC to it. Can I do that w/ iBank? W/ Quicken for Mac?

[alex_kac]

My only need for Quicken is to keep all my history AND interface with my banks so I can pay bills and get my financial info downloaded and categorized. Will iBank handle all that now? It didn't before.

[kenamurph]

Anymore experience with iBank. I am tired of the parallels/quicken for windows route.

[kenamurph]

Anymore thoughts or experience with iBank?

[iggypop]

Originally Posted by jackhlt 

I have new Mac and want to be able to transfer my Quicken files on my old PC to it. Can I do that w/ iBank? W/ Quicken for Mac?

iBank 3 makes it easy to import your data from Quicken. Just export your Quicken accounts to a QIF file and choose File>Import in iBank. Check the "Create accounts for this file" option when selecting the file to import, and iBank will automatically recreate all of your accounts from Quicken. 

iBank can import accounts, transactions, investments, and categories, but any scheduled transactions, charts, budgets, etc. will have to be recreated manually.

[iggypop]

Originally Posted by alex_kac 

My only need for Quicken is to keep all my history AND interface with my banks so I can pay bills and get my financial info downloaded and categorized. Will iBank handle all that now? It didn't before.

iBank 3 includes support for direct downloading, so any banks that Quicken can connect to should be supported in iBank as well. Oddly, my own small bank in VT doesn't offer direct download, but does let me download transactions in several file formats, including QIF. iBank imports that perfectly - an extra step, but still pretty painless.

Online billpay is not yet supported in iBank; on the other hand, iBank does offer smart import rules to help you categorize new transactions automatically, something Quicken doesn't have.

[bh95014]

Originally Posted by turtle777 

I was wondering myself, too.

OTOH, Quicken 2007 is running fine, I'm not sure I'd even upgrade. What killer features does Q2008 promise ?

-t

One killer feature: presumably 2008+ will not be written on top of ROSETTA !! What a joke that Intuit is shipping a Mac application in the middle of 2008 that still requires Rosetta to operate. For those not familiar, this means that Quicken was never even recompiled to run natively on Intel processors. Every time you run it, every machine instruction of the application has to be *translated* by Apple's Rosetta software from PowerPC to x86.

I know, because I just bought a brand new copy of 2007, installed it, and it crashed about an hour into using it. The crash backtrace shows that it failed in the Rosetta translation layer!

[alex_kac]

Originally Posted by iggypop 

iBank 3 includes support for direct downloading, so any banks that Quicken can connect to should be supported in iBank as well. Oddly, my own small bank in VT doesn't offer direct download, but does let me download transactions in several file formats, including QIF. iBank imports that perfectly - an extra step, but still pretty painless.

Online billpay is not yet supported in iBank; on the other hand, iBank does offer smart import rules to help you categorize new transactions automatically, something Quicken doesn't have.

So I tried iBank. It never would connect to Wells Fargo properly. I tried everything and looked at the forums. It simply never worked.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by bh95014 

One killer feature: presumably 2008+ will not be written on top of ROSETTA !! What a joke that Intuit is shipping a Mac application in the middle of 2008 that still requires Rosetta to operate. For those not familiar, this means that Quicken was never even recompiled to run natively on Intel processors. Every time you run it, every machine instruction of the application has to be *translated* by Apple's Rosetta software from PowerPC to x86.

That's NOT a killer feature. Quicken 2007 on Rosetta runs just fine for me. Yes, twice a month I get a crash, but I never lost any data. Quicken saves everything right when you enter it.

So if that would be all they change for 2008, count me out.

-t

[iggypop]

Originally Posted by alex_kac 

So I tried iBank. It never would connect to Wells Fargo properly. I tried everything and looked at the forums. It simply never worked.

Unfortunately, Wells (and some other big banks, like BoA) impose their own strictures on OFX (Open Financial Exchange). So to use the "open" format that iBank's direct downloads support, you must contact Wells to enable the service and pay a monthly fee. Not cool.

You may be able to use a simple workaround, as I do with my bank: I just download transactions in QIF format and import them into iBank. It's easy - you can even do it within iBank's built-in browser. Hope that helps.

[Art Vandelay]

The Quicken Financial Life beta is out now. I signed up for the beta several months ago but got an email yesterday saying they have too many applications and that I was not approved. However, if you go here then you can sign up for the beta program and download it immediately. Go figure.

They've got a long way to go to get it to be on par to Quicken Mac 2007 or iBank. The only thing you can really do with it right now is to download transactions. There is still no investment account support. There are no custom reports, just 5 basic reports. No reconciliation. You can't see the balances of accounts without opening the register for that account.

I don't see what they've been working on for the last year. It's already several months behind the original release date and now won't be released until summer '09 at the earliest. Aside from being able to download transactions, I think Numbers' financial templates are more powerful than QFL at the moment.

[turtle777]

Pfff, if they can't even make it better than Quicken for Mac 2007, they can forget it altogether.

I'm very close to switching to Quicken 2009 for PC (via VMware). I hate the idea of having to use a PC based software on a regular basis, but as long as Quicken doesn't get their Mac act together, I really don't see a lot of options.

Mind you, I'm more of a power use than avg. user. I have even been contemplating using QuickBooks, rather than Quicken. Maybe that's the way to go, I have to check out QuickBooks for Mac, too.

-t

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by Art Vandelay 

The Quicken Financial Life beta is out now. I signed up for the beta several months ago but got an email yesterday saying they have too many applications and that I was not approved. However, if you go here then you can sign up for the beta program and download it immediately. Go figure.

They've got a long way to go to get it to be on par to Quicken Mac 2007 or iBank. The only thing you can really do with it right now is to download transactions. There is still no investment account support. There are no custom reports, just 5 basic reports. No reconciliation. You can't see the balances of accounts without opening the register for that account.

I just downloaded and tried Financial Life. Gawd, this is horrible.
That's all they came up with in more than a year working on it ?

How ridiculous.

-t

[Art Vandelay]

Yeah, it really doesn't have any functionality yet. I don't know why they're bothering to release it to the public. This is more like an early alpha than a beta.