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Safari 3.2 causing crashes?
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Nov 13, 2008, 09:33 PM
 
I just updated to safari 3.2 and removed a few extensions (glims and safari block) right after. Safari quits unexpectedly ever few minutes now, especially when opening a new window. I don't think the extensions caused this (they shouldn't have right?).

How can I roll back to 3.1 or fix these issues? And yes I have repaired permissions and restarted multiple times as well as deleting the safari prefs.plist.
     
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Nov 13, 2008, 10:27 PM
 
Forgot to mention I am on a core duo macbook pro with 10.4.11, and I currently have no extensions or anything (other than flash) on safari.
     
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Nov 13, 2008, 10:48 PM
 
Do you have any other "extensions"?
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Nov 13, 2008, 10:54 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chuckit View Post
Do you have any other "extensions"?
As I said the only thing "extra" is flash, nothing else at all. I haven't had a crash in about 30 minutes which is somewhat confidence inspiring.
     
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Nov 14, 2008, 05:14 AM
 
Hi, I've got the same problem here:

Installed update to safari 3.2
tried to open
failed, said glims might be problem
removed glims
safari opened, crashed after 1st google search
keeps crashing, about 3 times
then asked me to "reset settings"
did that
still crashing
am still running 1password.. not sure if I want to remove that...

any ideas... this smells like an apple/safari problem...
     
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Nov 14, 2008, 06:39 AM
 
I have glims and safari block running on my 3.2 and it runs fine..

Why did you remove them? Out of caution?
     
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Nov 14, 2008, 07:18 AM
 
I had pithelmet also installed.
This was the problem.
Safari 3.2 works fine now with glims and 1password installed.
Unfortunately, pithelmet is gone for now.

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Nov 14, 2008, 07:19 AM
 
I thought it was a plugin, and I thought about glims first. It turned out to be pithelmet (see other post)
     
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Nov 14, 2008, 08:07 AM
 
Originally Posted by linger View Post
I have glims and safari block running on my 3.2 and it runs fine..

Why did you remove them? Out of caution?
I wasn't using either of them. I had pithhelmet, and it seems as though things improved after removing that (it still crashed a few times afterwards, but seems to be a lot better).
     
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Nov 14, 2008, 09:28 AM
 
Post a complete crash log.
     
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Nov 14, 2008, 10:39 AM
 
Originally Posted by Carlossos13 View Post
I thought it was a plugin, and I thought about glims first. It turned out to be pithelmet (see other post)
It's crashing regularly for me, and I don't have pithelmet installed. I'm using safariblock and acidsearch, so it's presumably one of those - looks like there's a more general problem with plugins in this version.
     
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Nov 14, 2008, 10:53 AM
 
Getting rid of acidsearch seems to have solved the crashing problem.
     
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Nov 14, 2008, 01:42 PM
 
I updated as well, and it seems to have been Pith Helmet that caused my frequent crashes. Hopefully, that's it, as it was really annoying.
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Nov 14, 2008, 05:23 PM
 
Originally Posted by michael_l View Post
It's crashing regularly for me, and I don't have pithelmet installed. I'm using safariblock and acidsearch, so it's presumably one of those - looks like there's a more general problem with plugins in this version.
The general problem is that you are all using unsupported hacks that cause Safari to have problems every time you update it. To save yourself from this and future headaches, stop using Safari (until such a time it has an API for plug-ins, if that ever happens) and either get Firefox and the equivalent extensions, or get a more capable WebKit based browser like OmniWeb or iCab which have those features built-in, or use Opera.
     
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Nov 15, 2008, 01:35 AM
 
I am using both Safari Block and Acidsearch with version 3.2, and I am not having problems. I doubt if those are the cause of the crashing. I am using SafariStand as well.
     
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Nov 15, 2008, 09:58 AM
 
I am getting an error message saying there is a more updated version of Safari on the hard drive. I deleted the old version and tried to reinstall and get the same error message. Now I have to reinstall from the Leopard OS disk. Any ideas?
     
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Nov 15, 2008, 11:11 AM
 
MacFixIt reported some crashes and hangs being linked to the automatic phishing checker.
     
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Nov 15, 2008, 03:22 PM
 
Originally Posted by JKT View Post
The general problem is that you are all using unsupported hacks that cause Safari to have problems every time you update it. To save yourself from this and future headaches, stop using Safari (until such a time it has an API for plug-ins, if that ever happens) and either get Firefox and the equivalent extensions, or get a more capable WebKit based browser like OmniWeb or iCab which have those features built-in, or use Opera.
I'd rather not use any of those browsers because they don't add any functionality that I would use and I don't find them visually appealing. I'll just wait for an updated version of pithhelmet to come out.
     
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Nov 16, 2008, 01:28 AM
 
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Nov 16, 2008, 06:16 AM
 
Originally Posted by Carlossos13 View Post
I thought it was a plugin, and I thought about glims first. It turned out to be pithelmet (see other post)
Thanks, very much, Carlossos13.
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Nov 16, 2008, 09:36 AM
 
Originally Posted by JKT View Post
The general problem is that you are all using unsupported hacks that cause Safari to have problems every time you update it. To save yourself from this and future headaches, stop using Safari [...]
Or just use GlimmerBlocker (http://gimmerblocker.org) which blocks ads without being a hack into Safari and therefore doesn't crash Safari when it's updated.

GlimmerBlocker is a private http proxy so it doesn't have all the drawbacks of the InputManager hacks. No instability, no restriction on upgrading Safari (or OSX).

It even allows you to modify web pages. An included filter inserts a 'download' link on YouTube pages.
     
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Nov 16, 2008, 01:36 PM
 
Its happened 3 or 4 times now to me...... spinning beach ball then it quits! Quite annoying!
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Nov 16, 2008, 02:23 PM
 
Originally Posted by silvestrov View Post
Or just use GlimmerBlocker (http://gimmerblocker.org) which blocks ads without being a hack into Safari and therefore doesn't crash Safari when it's updated.

GlimmerBlocker is a private http proxy so it doesn't have all the drawbacks of the InputManager hacks. No instability, no restriction on upgrading Safari (or OSX).

It even allows you to modify web pages. An included filter inserts a 'download' link on YouTube pages.
I wanted to give this a try, but it doesn't seem to work for 10.4, oh well.
     
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Nov 16, 2008, 02:41 PM
 
For anyone with crashes, have you tried turning off the phishing protection in Safari 3.2?
     
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Nov 16, 2008, 03:27 PM
 
Originally Posted by Cold Warrior View Post
For anyone with crashes, have you tried turning off the phishing protection in Safari 3.2?
Where is the option for that??
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Nov 16, 2008, 08:08 PM
 
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Nov 17, 2008, 04:26 PM
 
Can anybody help me *REMOVE* SafariBlock ?
I know it's not yet been indicted, but I'd like to be cautious before upgrading Safari.
I've had mine *disable* for a while, and when I ENable it the "Remove" button becomes available...
but clicking "Remove" just turns it back to "Disabled".

What a nuisance. I HATE software that will not be nice about being deleted.

Can anybody ***HELP*** guide me through the deletion?

PS: The (ancient) SafariBlock that I have is v1.14
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Nov 20, 2008, 10:38 PM
 
Safari (3.2 on my wife's PB G4 running 10.4.11) began quitting (not really crashing... no crash reporter) soon after installing the update. I tried disabling the "Warn when trying to visit fraudulent web sites" under the pref's security tab, but that had no effect.

The only plugin she had running was PithHelmet 2.8.3a. I first tried disabling it, but no help... had to remove the SIMBL folder in /Library/InputManagers, restarted Safari, and no problems.

I then installed SafariBlock 2.2r1 which does a credible job of blocking ads, not necessarily better or worse than PithHelmet, but it works fine without causing a crash.

Good luck, you all.

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Nov 24, 2008, 08:30 PM
 
version 3.2.1 just released today. Anyone updated to it?
For those with crashes, has it improved stability?
     
   
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