[Atheist]

It's regularly $39.95. Not sure how long it'll be free.

Check it out.

[Spheric Harlot]

Hey, neat!

iConquer and Synergy are in there, too!

[badidea]

Too bad I already own the interesting apps.

[turtle777]

I bought 1Password months ago. It's probably my #1 app. I couldn't live w/o it.

-t

[OreoCookie]

Why not use Keychain? I've never seen the appeal of 1Password, what's the big deal … 

[Big Mac]

1Password integrates well with the browsers, better than Keychain does. Unfortunately, I've been dubious on it ever since I linked it to Firefox instability. Now that I have the license, though, I'm inclined to give it another try.

[OreoCookie]

Keychain has always worked fine with my net necessities … what do you mean by `integrates better'?

[Big Mac]

There's no Keychain support in Firefox, for example. Keychain has never worked all that well for me in Safari, and I'm a self-defined power user. It seems that Safari uses its own separate password manager anyway, which I don't feel like using. Keychain only seems to work well for a few Apple applications, one of which is not Safari. 1Password always gives quick access to passwords across browsers, creates them at the time you create them in a browser and allows you to retrieve and fill them in easily. It works the way Keychain should work, IMO, but then again I did mention that instability in Firefox that coincided with installing 1Password. I'm going to give it a second chance now that I won't be nagged by it. Have you used it?

[Spheric Harlot]

I doubt he has: He's trying to figure out why he *should*.

I've heard good things about it, as well, so I'm willing to give it a chance.

AFAICS, one of its strengths is that it will also *generate* secure passwords for you on the fly, and remember them for you.

[King Bob On The Cob]

Key points for me?

It'll fill out my credit card info for me when I'm buying stuff online.

[CharlesS]

The main reason I don't like 1Password is that it implements itself by hacking its way into the system via a fake InputManager. Not only does this mean it could make applications unstable, but it also is likely to break in future versions of OS X (and probably won't work with 64-bit apps today).

Originally Posted by King Bob On The Cob 

Key points for me?

It'll fill out my credit card info for me when I'm buying stuff online.

And then if your laptop gets stolen, the thief can easily commit identity theft on you! There's a reason the Keychain doesn't do that out of the box.......

[Big Mac]

Originally Posted by CharlesS 

The main reason I don't like 1Password is that it implements itself by hacking its way into the system via a fake InputManager. Not only does this mean it could make applications unstable, but it also is likely to break in future versions of OS X (and probably won't work with 64-bit apps today).

Perhaps for some of the browsers, but it uses a regular Firefox plugin for Firefox, AFAIK.

And then if your laptop gets stolen, the thief can easily commit identity theft on you! There's a reason the Keychain doesn't do that out of the box.......

1Password's keychain is locked and encrypted by default.

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally Posted by King Bob On The Cob 

Key points for me?

It'll fill out my credit card info for me when I'm buying stuff online.

That, and online banking, are the two things I really DON'T want auto-fill for.

[lavar78]

I love 1Password! It's an absolute necessity AFAIK.

[Ted L. Nancy]

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot 

That, and online banking, are the two things I really DON'T want auto-fill for.

Why? If it is a concern about having your passwords stored on your computer, I think it is a a concern you need not have. 1Password stores everything very securely. There's probably a greater chance that someone will steal your bank account or credit card information by attacking the financial institution's server than your individual personal copy of the 1Password keychain.

Many argue 1Password makes these types of logins MORE secure because you have have longer, completely random passwords (there is an awesome password generator built into the app) that are next to impossible to memorize, and you need not even copy and paste them to get them into your web form (thereby not leaving traces of them in your clipboard).

1Password also stores many other kinds of information, such as driver's license numbers, pin numbers, insurance policy information, software serial numbers, and really any other type of information you want to keep safe.

Not to mention the app comes with a built-in anti-phishing feature and the secure information is still backed up with Time Machine, can integrate across machines, can be used to auto-login to websites on your iPhone...

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally Posted by Ted L. Nancy 

Why? If it is a concern about having your passwords stored on your computer, I think it is a a concern you need not have. 1Password stores everything very securely. There's probably a greater chance that someone will steal your bank account or credit card information by attacking the financial institution's server than your individual personal copy of the 1Password keychain.

What a lucky guy: He's never had a computer stolen, or even break down and brought into a shop for repair!

Don't ask how I can tell.

[King Bob On The Cob]

Originally Posted by CharlesS 

The main reason I don't like 1Password is that it implements itself by hacking its way into the system via a fake InputManager. Not only does this mean it could make applications unstable, but it also is likely to break in future versions of OS X (and probably won't work with 64-bit apps today).


And then if your laptop gets stolen, the thief can easily commit identity theft on you! There's a reason the Keychain doesn't do that out of the box.......

Good luck guessing the password to unlock the keychain. I can keep one really secure password memorized, but more than 2? Not gonna happen. This is the best way for me to maintain security (Better to memorize one secure password rather than 4 or 5 crackable ones).

[adamfishercox]

So then what happens when you are on a computer without 1Password, and you need one of said "unmemorizable" passwords?

Are you screwed?

Is this the reason I don't use 1Password?

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by adamfishercox 

So then what happens when you are on a computer without 1Password, and you need one of said "unmemorizable" passwords?

Are you screwed?

Is this the reason I don't use 1Password?

a) Nobody forces you to use unmemorizable passwords. Duh.

b) there is a free iPhone app, you can sync all your 1Password passwords.

c) You can save the encrypted 1Password keychain on Dropbox, and access it from multiple computers. Works like a charm. I have all my Macs neatly synced up, any change you make on any computer syncs to ALL 1Password apps. Try that with the Apple Keychain.

-t

[Ted L. Nancy]

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot 

What a lucky guy: He's never had a computer stolen, or even break down and brought into a shop for repair!

Don't ask how I can tell.

Never stolen. (I'm pretty careful with things that cost over $1000.)

Repaired often by Apple.

IF I was that concerned about Apple hacking into my 1Password keychain, I suppose I could always remove the keychain file from my computer before sending it in. What a hassle!

As said by others... good luck guessing the password to unlock my 1Password keychain, which you'll only have the opportunity to do after you guess the password to my OS X admin account.

If you don't want 1Password, don't get it. The guys who make the software are very nice, intelligent people. I, for one, can only speak very highly of the software.

[turtle777]

1Passwords developers are absolutely awesome.

They communicate well, they update the software regularly, they deliver great feature improvements.

I'm very impressed with those guys. Despite them being Canadians

-t

[Big Mac]

I have been using 1Password again for the last few days and have been quite pleased. It really is great the way it integrates with browsers and fills in logins with a single click. I haven't experienced any browser instability like I suspected before. The only thing that I have been disappointed with is the search function, which appears to be broken as of version version 2.9.5. For the time being, I'm going to continue updating my Web Confidential file along with my 1Password file, but I'm getting accustomed to the convenience of 1Password.

[tooki]

Originally Posted by Big Mac 

It seems that Safari uses its own separate password manager anyway, which I don't feel like using. Keychain only seems to work well for a few Apple applications, one of which is not Safari.

Umm... no...

Safari stores saved logins in the Keychain. You can go into your keychain and look for and at those saved logins if you like. It's also what allows your saved Safari passwords to work across your machines if you use MobileMe, since that service offers keychain syncing.

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally Posted by turtle777 

c) You can save the encrypted 1Password keychain on Dropbox, and access it from multiple computers. Works like a charm. I have all my Macs neatly synced up, any change you make on any computer syncs to ALL 1Password apps. Try that with the Apple Keychain.

Been doing that for years with .Mac/MobileMe...

[besson3c]

Something about the notion of being dependent on this thing to automate security and add a degree of convenience while I have to trust the security or lack thereof of what goes on behind the scenes makes me feel uneasy. I think I'll pass on this.

Synergy is always free, why is this site assigning it commercial value, or is it?

[angelmb]

Well, it seems to be a $7 app

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot 

Been doing that for years with .Mac/MobileMe...

Yes, at $ 99 / year. I get it for free

-t

[besson3c]

Oh, there are two Synergys:

Synergy iTunes control, and:

Synergy software KVM

The latter is much cooler and is what is free