Welcome to the MacNN Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

You are here: MacNN Forums > Software - Troubleshooting and Discussion > Applications > I open Safari - let it sit on any webpage for a minute - and it freaks out

I open Safari - let it sit on any webpage for a minute - and it freaks out
Thread Tools
Mac Enthusiast
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Excellent, the sports issue is within arm's reach, I'll be here all day.
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Mar 29, 2009, 03:15 PM
 
This is a fairly recent clean install of the operating system, no Safari haxies... I just updated to 10.5.6, ran weekly cron scripts, even did the whole Safari reset thing in the File menu, restarted my browser, my computer, even my laundry... the problem just isn't going away. This never happened with any of my previous installs of OS X. I downloaded (and upgraded to) Mac OS X 10.5.6 from the Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard CD using Apple's own Combo updater. This is Safari 3.2.1 on an iMac G5 PPC, 1.25 GM RAM, 40 GB leftover HD space.

Basically, if I let Safari sit on any webpage, it doesn't need to have flash, and it doesn't even have to be Apple's own livepage that Apple's used as the default home page since OS 8. If I let Safari sit for anywhere between like 0.5-1.5 minutes on any of these webpages, then it starts eating up my CPU, goes to like 60 if I hit Command-Q on Safari, I get the spinning spectrum icon, and my CPU uses go even higher still (nearer 100%). So, I have to Force Quit in order to get out. (In comparison, Safari normally uses 0-1 % when idle.)

Why is it doing this, even (and only) after this clean install????


I have a really long thing of "Problem Report for Safari" that I'm supposed to send to Apple, but it's so long that I'm afraid to post it in here.
     
Andrej  (op)
Mac Enthusiast
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Excellent, the sports issue is within arm's reach, I'll be here all day.
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 3, 2009, 08:48 PM
 
[1 week later]


Guys, seriously, help me out here. I'm totally out of ideas, I mean, fresh OS, didn't have this problem ever before, did the Reset Safari thingy, went to Apple's website, re-downloaded and re-installed Safari 3.2.1 for Leopard... Safari still goes haywire when sitting idle for a minute. I give up, what's going on? What else is there for me to troubleshoot?
     
Clinically Insane
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: San Diego, CA, USA
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 3, 2009, 09:48 PM
 
When you say fresh OS, do you mean literally a clean install, or is this with your same user folder?
Chuck
___
"Instead of either 'multi-talented' or 'multitalented' use 'bisexual'."
     
cgc
Mac Elite
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Virginia
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 3, 2009, 11:06 PM
 
Try Firefox and see if it has the same issues with that same webpage.
     
Andrej  (op)
Mac Enthusiast
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Excellent, the sports issue is within arm's reach, I'll be here all day.
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 4, 2009, 09:35 AM
 
Firefox has no such issues. I use Firefox as my first choice browser, Safari as my second (or when I need a flash video file).

I did an "Erase and Install," brought back my fonts, a few apps, a few preferences (none of them from Safari), my documents folder (no Safari data, I started fresh), and my Firefox folder.
     
Andrej  (op)
Mac Enthusiast
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Excellent, the sports issue is within arm's reach, I'll be here all day.
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 16, 2009, 07:56 PM
 
Alright, this makes no sense.

I upgraded to Safari 4 to see if that would fix the problem.

Well, it did, but only for about a week. Now the problem is back.

What is the cause? I'm going nuts trying to search for answers and nothing's permanently solving the problem.

Either that, or Safari now just takes like 20 seconds to quit when on Flash pages.
(Last edited by Andrej; Apr 16, 2009 at 08:06 PM. )
     
Professional Poster
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: brooklyn ny
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 16, 2009, 10:07 PM
 
hard to tell from here...
update flash?
just use firefox??
"At first, there was Nothing. Then Nothing inverted itself and became Something.
And that is what you all are: inverted Nothings...with potential" (Sun Ra)
     
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: FFM
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 17, 2009, 07:54 AM
 
Open Activity Viewer and select Safari. As soon as it starts hanging press the Sample button. Post the sample log.
     
JKT
Professional Poster
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: London, UK
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 17, 2009, 08:03 AM
 
Edit: I was writing post before TETENAL submitted his, so sorry for the duplication of advice!

Run a sample on the Safari process when this happens and post the results here - it might give some pointers as to what is happening:

1. Launch Activity Monitor in your /Applications/Utilities folder (do this before you start Safari and just leave it ticking away in the background until you need it).

2. Once you notice CPU usage ramping up, go back to Activity Monitor and sort the columns by CPU usage (click the CPU heading), then identify the process(es) using all the CPU.

3. Assuming it is Safari, click the name in the list to highlight it.

4. Go to the View menu and select Sample Process from the listed options (or press command-option-S). After about 10 to 15s, a sample report will be generated for your selected process.

5. Post the sample report here between [ code ] and [ / code ] tags.

Note, if you find yourself needing to do this at any other time on a relatively regular occurrence you can add a Sample button to the toolbar of Activity Monitor by selecting Customise Toolbar... from the View menu.
     
Andrej  (op)
Mac Enthusiast
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Excellent, the sports issue is within arm's reach, I'll be here all day.
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 24, 2009, 06:48 PM
 
Alright folks, well here is the output of the Sample from Safari 4:



Sampling process 152 for 3 seconds with 1 millisecond of run time between samples
2009-04-24 19:45:10.363 sample[163:1103] Symbolication warning: fde.addrRange.location 0xa0bfc0a0 isn't in the the __TEXT segment [0x9738a000 - 0x00002000)
2009-04-24 19:45:10.376 sample[163:1103] Symbolication warning: fde.addrRange.location 0xa0bfc0a4 isn't in the the __TEXT segment [0x9738a000 - 0x00002000)
Sampling completed, processing symbols...
Analysis of sampling Exited process (pid 152) every 1 millisecond
Call graph:
15 Thread_2803
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
15 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)

[note: It just keeps doing this same thing with the text ever still more indented, the indents will not display in vBulletin]

and then finally these:
15 CFRunLoopRunSpecific
15 CFRunLoopRunSpecific
15 CFRunLoopRunSpecific
15 CFRunLoopRunSpecific
15 CFRunLoopRunSpecific
15 mach_msg_trap
15 Thread_2f03
15 __semwait_signal
15 __semwait_signal

Total number in stack (recursive counted multiple, when >=5):
2018 CFRunLoopRunSpecific
508 WTF::waitForThreadCompletion(unsigned int, void**)
508 __CFSocketManager

Sort by top of stack, same collapsed (when >= 5):
__semwait_signal 45
mach_msg_trap 45
pread$UNIX2003 15
select$DARWIN_EXTSN 15
Sample analysis of process 152 written to file /dev/stdout















All right folks, so what does all of this mean?
     
JKT
Professional Poster
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: London, UK
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 24, 2009, 06:59 PM
 
Never mind... Just being an idiot (original post deleted).
     
Fresh-Faced Recruit
Join Date: Jun 2005
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 28, 2009, 07:37 PM
 
Just curious, what happens if you uncheck the "warn when visiting a fraudulent website" box? It's located under Safari Preferences, under the "security" tab.

Does it still do this?
     
Andrej  (op)
Mac Enthusiast
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Excellent, the sports issue is within arm's reach, I'll be here all day.
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Apr 30, 2009, 04:37 PM
 
So far, no problems per settings change, but that's not to say that they've been eliminated. If they pop back up again, then I'll update.
     
   
Thread Tools
Forum Links
Forum Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Top
Privacy Policy
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:23 AM.
All contents of these forums © 1995-2011 MacNN. All rights reserved.
Branding + Design: www.gesamtbild.com
vBulletin v.3.8.7 © 2000-2011, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2