[Eden Aurora]

Just wanted to confirm that when you sync music/document (the "file") from your Computer to the Cloud and then down to your Mobile Device; the file is actually copied onto the mobile device (instead of just LINKING to it in the Cloud) ?

and if it does 'actually' get copied to your mobile device, does a copy stay on the cloud as well?

I ask because some people are saying that the iCloud was created so that our mobile devices don't need hard drives of a large size. Where as i look at iCloud as a syncing service.

[turtle777]

The way that Apple made it sound in the keynote was that a download is pushed to your mobile device (akin to Dropbox).

Otherwise, iCloud would be nothing but a glorified Webdev storage.
Webdev is too slow to get anything done productively.

-t

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by turtle777 

The way that Apple made it sound in the keynote was that a download is pushed to your mobile device (akin to Dropbox).

Otherwise, iCloud would be nothing but a glorified Webdev storage.
Webdev is too slow to get anything done productively.

-t

Do you mean WebDAV? If so, there is nothing about WebDAV that makes it slow, it is just a way to mount files served by a webserver as a volume, but the actual serving is handled by the webserver. Any performance problems you've encountered are probably due to the crappy OS X Finder, the actual raw performance of WebDAV is fine.

[turtle777]

Yeah, Webdav. But at any rate, it might be fast enough for document, but not for massive amounts of pictures or videos.

-t

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by turtle777 

Yeah, Webdav. But at any rate, it might be fast enough for document, but not for massive amounts of pictures or videos.

-t

That's not true either, it depends completely on the underlying hardware. Just saying....

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

That's not true either, it depends completely on the underlying hardware. Just saying....

Oh please. We're talking mobile devices on 3G. You can answer your own question.

If Webdav was truly such a great thing for today's mobile devices, wouldn't you think there would be tons of applications using it ?

-t

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by turtle777 

Oh please. We're talking mobile devices on 3G. You can answer your own question.

If Webdav was truly such a great thing for today's mobile devices, wouldn't you think there would be tons of applications using it ?

-t

It is not used by a lot of mobile devices because support for the secure version of it that supports authentication via SSL encryption is less common, and SSL itself is computationally expensive and unnecessary if all of you need it for is the initial authentication/authorization.

However, WebDAV itself is just another way of serving HTTP, period. If you don't need to worry about authentication/authorization, serving speed is determined by your web server, period. If you are Facebook it will be fine, if you are Dreamhost it will probably be slow. There is nothing slow about WebDAV, it is just not terribly well suited for using as the basis of a web service when there are other protocols for this purpose that handle the authorization/authentication which is not really a part of the WebDAV protocol. IOW, if you could take care of the auth some other way WebDAV would be just fine.

To the original poster, a copy is indeed sent up to iCloud.

[TETENAL]

After watching the keynote I am under the impression that the canonical version of a document is in the cloud and copies are pushed to all devices. Unfortunately that means that the cloud doesn't save those devices any flash or hard drive memory.

[chabig]

Except that you can delete an app or document from the device and it remains available in the cloud. So you can have a 50GB music library in iCloud and yet your 16GB iPhone has access to all of that music. I don't know if documents work that way. There must be a way to delete documents from the cloud.

[Eden Aurora]

Apple never addressed VIDEO. nothing was mentioned about Video syncing or sharing. odd.

[chabig]

Videos on the phone appear in the Camera Roll. I guess they sync just like photos, but maybe only on wifi?

[Spheric Harlot]

There's a bunch of unanswered questions yet. A lot, we won't know until fall.

[Eden Aurora]

i wouldn't assume video is in the Camera Roll. In fact, since it was specifically never mentioned, i bet it's not supported. Plus, video takes up such a large amount of space, it would be problematic to upload and store.

video will be supported in iCloud 2.0

[Spheric Harlot]

We don't know yet, and you don't, either.

I'm pretty sure it will be supported for syncing from a machine via local network, but not via cloud. This is speculative, though.

[Spheric Harlot]

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