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Jul 15, 2003, 09:34 PM
 
Why can't I get a fricken Job?

http://www.hireme.com

(No, don't go there)


http://www22.brinkster.com/kulaga/mk.html
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Jul 16, 2003, 12:07 AM
 
get a job at kinkos you'ld be suprised how much freelance you can get out of the place. and though it hasn't happened to me yet i know a few folks who left got jobs at design places all from customers they met there
     
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Jul 16, 2003, 08:21 AM
 
Getting a job is not as easy as you'd like it to be. You'd have to go TO potential clients and offer them your services.

Once more people know about you, they'll start hiring you.
     
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Jul 16, 2003, 03:02 PM
 
My first job out of college was at a copy center. At any rate, it made it convenient to print out resumés!
     
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Jul 17, 2003, 10:59 AM
 
I'm looking for some advice here, not
"Hey work for Kinko's"
"Copy shop"

I'm overqualified for these places, and have
been told this.

It's sick, and I'm about had-it!
You hear?!
I've about had-it.

I'm just looking for a decent job, where the
Art Director is not a Sadist.

Maybe that is asking too much.
How about a friggin job.
Freelance would do.

http://www22.brinkster.com/kulaga/mk.html

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Jul 17, 2003, 11:09 AM
 
Originally posted by Adam Betts:
Getting a job is not as easy as you'd like it to be. You'd have to go TO potential clients and offer them your services.

Once more people know about you, they'll start hiring you.

Brett:

I like your work!

Thanks for the advice.

-Mark
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Jul 17, 2003, 12:56 PM
 
Originally posted by ghost_flash:
I'm looking for some advice here, not
"Hey work for Kinko's"
"Copy shop"

I'm overqualified for these places, and have
been told this.
Yes, well, overqualified doesn't mean it's not a good idea. We were all overqualified too, and we did it. You do what you have to. And Toast is right--free copies!

Are you taking this attitude into job interviews? Perhaps employers would rather have humble applicants they have to train a little.

Of course, if you're just venting here, go ahead, we feel your pain!
     
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Jul 18, 2003, 08:09 AM
 
Originally posted by andi*pandi:
Yes, well, overqualified doesn't mean it's not a good idea. We were all overqualified too, and we did it. You do what you have to. And Toast is right--free copies!

Are you taking this attitude into job interviews? Perhaps employers would rather have humble applicants they have to train a little.

Of course, if you're just venting here, go ahead, we feel your pain!
Just venting.
I'd work there! It's getting the effing interview that is killing me. I get all these great lettes in the mail about how my "qualifications are impressive, but..."

I know it's tough, I've been out of work for a year, then on working for some guy with a Hitler/Nepolean complex, then off again after only 6 months. The jaggoff let me go a day before he had to give me any severance.

I'm not in a happy place.
I think this industry is in the toilet.

<working on a new site>
http://www22.brinkster.com/kulaga/index.html

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Jul 18, 2003, 09:17 AM
 
then he is a bastard and we hate him. That sucks.

But you truly can't be part of the bitter work force, until you have unwittingly trained your own replacement and then been fired. That is the pinnacle of bitterness.

I might take a job in another industry just to change the scenery.
     
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Jul 18, 2003, 12:43 PM
 
I mean, look at this guy. He's got

the right attitude.
     
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Jul 18, 2003, 04:35 PM
 
Originally posted by andi*pandi:
I mean, look at this guy. He's got

the right attitude.
Good one.
I'll take the advice and do some repairs, go to all the freebies I can. Maybe that'll pick up the spirits!

Thanks.

Mark

BTW: Updating my site as well.... check it out.

http://www22.brinkster.com/kulaga/index.html
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Jul 19, 2003, 11:00 AM
 
I just completed doing some new things on my .mac account with the personal web page.

Take a look, let me know what you think.

Thanks,
Mark

http://homepage.mac.com/mark_kulaga/


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Jul 21, 2003, 01:13 PM
 
ok, your site:

On the portfolio page, unless you are a medical doctor looking for referrals, it is "thank you for your patience."

In your resume, unless you are looking to be a pro wrestler, do not put your weight!

You also do not need to put your birthdate. Hiring managers are not supposed to care how old or young you are.

Your work experience should come IN FRONT OF your favorite movies. And unless you are a film student applying for a film job, one wonders what possible benefit there is to putting your favorite movies. Maybe list them for character, but a paragraph each? Excessive.

You need to have job titles in your work experience.

work experience: under logo, you misspelled representation.

another spelling: LIAISON!

don't capitalize Embedded in the middle of a sentence like that.

other miscelleous capitalization and punctuation errors too numerous to go into here.

I think we've discovered a few reasons why hiring managers aren't biting... I know that some simply throw out any resume with a typo, even if for a "creative" position.

sorry!
     
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Jul 22, 2003, 11:44 AM
 
Originally posted by andi*pandi:
ok, your site:

On the portfolio page, unless you are a medical doctor looking for referrals, it is "thank you for your patience."

In your resume, unless you are looking to be a pro wrestler, do not put your weight!

You also do not need to put your birthdate. Hiring managers are not supposed to care how old or young you are.

Your work experience should come IN FRONT OF your favorite movies. And unless you are a film student applying for a film job, one wonders what possible benefit there is to putting your favorite movies. Maybe list them for character, but a paragraph each? Excessive.

You need to have job titles in your work experience.

work experience: under logo, you misspelled representation.

another spelling: LIAISON!

don't capitalize Embedded in the middle of a sentence like that.

other miscelleous capitalization and punctuation errors too numerous to go into here.

I think we've discovered a few reasons why hiring managers aren't biting... I know that some simply throw out any resume with a typo, even if for a "creative" position.

sorry!
Fixed.
Thanks for the great critique!
No need to be sorry, this is exactly the sort of unbridled information I asked for.
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Jul 24, 2003, 12:46 PM
 
Having been "around the block" a few times... I would search out jobs. DON'T rely on monster.com and the local newspaper to find that perfect job. You must also remember that not every company needs a full time designer. Some will place an ad for a developer, secretary, office manager with the implicit idea that they will design the Web site and do other such graphic projects. Visit local places that would require such services (college, university, etc. etc.) Design forms are only 1/2 the jobs out there. I also HIGHLY recommend temping!!! Temp for a company, design the way you want to design (or not) and when you are done, have a potential client for updates/edits. EVERYONE makes out.

DO NOT spend hours working on your web site. That will only get your foot near the door, not in it.

Just my 2˘
     
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Jul 24, 2003, 04:48 PM
 
and liaison is still spelled incorrectly.

     
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Jul 24, 2003, 10:33 PM
 
Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
Having been "around the block" a few times... I would search out jobs. DON'T rely on monster.com and the local newspaper to find that perfect job. You must also remember that not every company needs a full time designer. Some will place an ad for a developer, secretary, office manager with the implicit idea that they will design the Web site and do other such graphic projects. Visit local places that would require such services (college, university, etc. etc.) Design forms are only 1/2 the jobs out there. I also HIGHLY recommend temping!!! Temp for a company, design the way you want to design (or not) and when you are done, have a potential client for updates/edits. EVERYONE makes out.

DO NOT spend hours working on your web site. That will only get your foot near the door, not in it.

Just my 2˘
Thank you!
Have you seen my site?
I don't quite fit the "picture" of a secretary.
I tend to intimidate people.

Temping.... gag.
I had a very bad experience with a temping firm. VERY BAD.

I'm going to Kinkos.

Thank you very much for your kind words of advice.

Regards,
Mark
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Jul 24, 2003, 10:33 PM
 
Originally posted by andi*pandi:
and liaison is still spelled incorrectly.

Damn.
Fixed.......

;O)

-Mark
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Jul 25, 2003, 03:14 PM
 
Looking for work in IL only?
"To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men."
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Jul 25, 2003, 05:51 PM
 
Originally posted by mikellanes:
Looking for work in IL only?
I'll work anywhere.

IL
US
Abroad

Wherever a good job awaits me.

I'm ready for an adventure...and have looked and am still looking.

-Mark
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Jul 25, 2003, 05:53 PM
 
Originally posted by mikellanes:
Looking for work in IL only?
Actually,

I would love to relocate to Florida.


Boca Raton
West Palm Beach
Sarasota
Miami
Ft. Meyers
Orlando
Tampa / St. Pete
Naples

Most of my family live in South-East or South-West Florida.
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Jul 25, 2003, 10:29 PM
 
Originally posted by ghost_flash:
I'm just looking for a decent job, where the
Art Director is not a Sadist.
you're screwed, all art directors are sadists.
     
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Jul 25, 2003, 10:47 PM
 
/me takes the kid gloves off.

continue at your own risk.

Frankly I think your work lacks a certain punch, I think the technical is there but you need lots of typography help and fast. Work on your font choices, there is no need to be so heavy handed. Some [most] of your color choices really just aren't working. As for your site, Taking control of my browser with the full screen + popup crap made me want to close the window before I even looked at it. The cheesy aqua buttons are stupid.I'm sorry. Take some more risks in your work, use some non-system typefaces and find an aesthetical style that you can call your own. Showing off safari with bookmarks bar showing while on a blatant apple-ish designed site is makes me gag. You aren't getting work because stylistically, your work doesn't stand out, period.

What is that weird square thing in the background window behind the popup? Not only does it look bad, but it also doesn't work stylistcally with the rest of your site.

Your buttons could use some visual feedback on rollover.

If your 'about' section isn't ready, don't put it live, 'coming soon' reflects badly.

The 'rules of snooker' piece drags down the rest of your portfolio significantly.

Your resume could use some contrast.

impact is one of the uglliest fonts ever created.

Your resume should show off a small degree of personal style I think, have fun with it. Its looking a little stale.

Why'd you use flash? I have no problems with flash, I use it alot, but you aren't doing anything with it justifies its use..

The popup window is a tad small. Most desigers have a decent size monitor, you can get away with a larger layout.

Take some design and type classes at your local art school, you need to get a handle on it.

The photo on the front page is odd. I'm not sure if I like photos of designers on their sites unless its in a photo section or something. but to each his own, clean up the shadow at least.
     
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Jul 26, 2003, 11:41 AM
 
Originally posted by godzookie2k:
/me takes the kid gloves off.

continue at your own risk.

Frankly I think your work lacks a certain punch, I think the technical is there but you need lots of typography help and fast. Work on your font choices, there is no need to be so heavy handed. Some [most] of your color choices really just aren't working. As for your site, Taking control of my browser with the full screen + popup crap made me want to close the window before I even looked at it. The cheesy aqua buttons are stupid.I'm sorry. Take some more risks in your work, use some non-system typefaces and find an aesthetical style that you can call your own. Showing off safari with bookmarks bar showing while on a blatant apple-ish designed site is makes me gag. You aren't getting work because stylistically, your work doesn't stand out, period.

What is that weird square thing in the background window behind the popup? Not only does it look bad, but it also doesn't work stylistcally with the rest of your site.

Your buttons could use some visual feedback on rollover.

If your 'about' section isn't ready, don't put it live, 'coming soon' reflects badly.

The 'rules of snooker' piece drags down the rest of your portfolio significantly.

Your resume could use some contrast.

impact is one of the uglliest fonts ever created.

Your resume should show off a small degree of personal style I think, have fun with it. Its looking a little stale.

Why'd you use flash? I have no problems with flash, I use it alot, but you aren't doing anything with it justifies its use..

The popup window is a tad small. Most desigers have a decent size monitor, you can get away with a larger layout.

Take some design and type classes at your local art school, you need to get a handle on it.

The photo on the front page is odd. I'm not sure if I like photos of designers on their sites unless its in a photo section or something. but to each his own, clean up the shadow at least.
You make some strong points, and in not so subtle a fashion.

I want to thank you.
I love honesty.
I'm going to go and put some ice on the bloody nose, but I love it.

"Pain is weakness leaving your body".
You have shown some weakness' I have to address.

Thanks.

BTW: You have to be an Art Director.
How about a job?
I'm willing to relocate, and I can take constructive criticism.
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Jul 27, 2003, 11:23 AM
 
you also gatta learn to kiss more ass than that.
     
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Jul 27, 2003, 12:16 PM
 
Originally posted by godzookie2k:
you also gatta learn to kiss more ass than that.
Not enough?

Ok, you are not only a rich man but a powerful one as well... (-pretty woman)




Screw it, :O) I'll just go work for the Department of Transportation waving one of those flags... (Always work for them in Illinois)
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Aug 3, 2003, 11:07 PM
 
Hello,

This is an interesting thread as I am also looking for a job in web or graphic design.

Life has been very frustrating. I am trying to figure out if it's my portfolio and design background or my approach at finding work. I use monster, read the paper, and send "cold call" resumes to firms that have some potential for work.

Please critque my portfolio! Be as honest as you like.

URL: http://people.umass.edu/acco3/

If any of you have any good resources or ideas (design firms, web sites, etc.) please post them.

Thanks alot.

-Matt

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Aug 4, 2003, 02:35 PM
 
matthew, it's not polite to hijack ghosts thread.

that said, you really don't have much in your portfolio. All those umass pages really count as one--how much design did each one need, when they follow the same template? Your print section is very limited and needs more creativity in there. I did like seeing the progression that you used to come up with your personal logo.

And a designer's resume needs more creativity. Yours looks like a business resume.

Does no one teach resume and portfolio building anymore???
     
   
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