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IndesignCS text/pdf problem
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Join Date: Nov 2000
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Maybe someone here can help me with this.. I'm using IndesignCS to make a handbook and using Times New Roman as the font. When I export to pdf, each page is a pdf with the text as an image, and thus just straight text is coming out at 1 megabyte per page.
Any idea what i'm doing wrong or know what setting to change?
-vasu
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Join Date: Dec 2002
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What settings are you using?
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on second thought ... it is exporting as text, but for some reason a simple single page with 4 boxes of text (a box, with a solid top bar and then text underneath) is still coming out to 1mb per page.
When i export i say to compress line art and what not
-vasu
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...but which setting are you using? One of the pre-set defaults? Print? Screen? E-Book? Press??? Or a custom one?
I just filled 4 pages with Times New Roman Text and saved it as a PDF and it was 58k...
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Thanks for the reply. I'm actually asking these questions for a friend who' using Indesign, and since I haven't done any DTP since using Quark4 back in 2000, I thought I'd ask for her here.
Here are the settings, she's using custom:
color images: jpeg, image quality: minimum
grayscale images: zip, image quality: 4 bit
monochrome compression: zip 1200x1800 ppi
all of them are "bicubic downsampling"
compress text and line art box is checked
not sure what the monochrome compression setting is used for, but 1200x1800 ppi seems seriously up there, esp for text...
any thoughts?
-vasu
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color images: jpeg, image quality: minimum
grayscale images: zip, image quality: 4 bit
monochrome compression: zip 1200x1800 ppi
all of them are "bicubic downsampling"
compress text and line art box is checked
TRY:
color images & grayscale:
DO NOT DOWNSAMPLE
Compression: Automatic
Image Quality: Maximum
monochrome
DO NOT DOWNSAMPLE
compression: CCITT Group 4
Keep "compress text and line art box" checked.
These are specs I use to create pdf files for my printing press company... they also include crop marks and bleed, but I do not believe you asked about that...
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still coming out to 1mb/page with those settings (10mb/10pages)
the layout of them is a page with 4 boxes (quarter of the page each) filled with text, and the box has a bar at the top that is black with a title.
-vasu
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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hmmmmm... does she have Acrobat Professional 6? In 6, inder "File" there is "Reduce File Size."
Open the big file, click on "Reduce File Size" and save it... It will reduce the file size... or it should.
Other than that, I am at a loss...
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Join Date: Dec 2002
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Is she embedding tons of fonts for no reason? There is a "Always embed these fonts" option, if she is embedding lots of fonts it can increase the file size.
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Is this person using InDesign to import EPS/PDF from another app and then export to PDF?
I can't believe InDesign would make such massive PDFs otherwise. I have seen this sort of thing happen with files imported from CorelDRAW or Word - these and similar apps make really bad postscript with lots of junk in it that ID can't filter out.
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She's making them natively in InDesign, not importing them...
not sure if she's embedding fonts, I'll ask her, where is the setting for this?
She doesn't have Acrobat pro, but I tried downloaded a couple shareware pdf shrink/compress tools and they didn't make a difference, but I bet acrobat 6 pro will do more than just remove uncessary stuff and actually regenerate it or something
-vasu
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She hasn't outlined the text has she? That would make big files.
Other than that I've got no more ideas. If you sent me a page of the PDF I could tell you.
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what acrobat does she have?
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Join Date: Mar 2003
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It's really not making any sense- size - wise... there's gotta be something else going on... Hard to tell w/o seeing the file.
If you still have trouble and feel like getting to the bottom of it- upload load the indesign file/ or a sample to my attention : www.papergraphics.biz, i'll take a look.
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i'll talk to her zoon about it and see if I can get the indesign files from her
i'll keep you guys posted
-vasu
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