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difference between pantone C and CVC?
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Feb 3, 2005, 01:44 PM
 
what is the difference between pantone C and CVC? i am trying to create a company style guide. thanks all!
     
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Feb 3, 2005, 04:28 PM
 
from my experience, CVC is the naming used by Corel for Pantone Coated, while C is used by Quark and Adobe products for Pantone Coated. (CVU and U for uncoated respectively).

they should be the same PMS, but if you were to import Corel work into say InDesign that's marked CVC, and you already have the same PMS colour in your swatch library, then it will show up as a two different swatches (one with C and one with CVC). you'll have to use the ink manager to map the two to the same PMS colour.
     
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Feb 3, 2005, 05:24 PM
 
thanks for the prompt response. i am using pantone 2945cvc in illustrator. sometimes when i copy the logo using this color into another document using the same swatch, there is a swatch problem and it asks to either add or merge the swatches. i chose to add it and now it has pantone 2945cvc and pantone 2945cvc 1 in the swatch palette. then i need to convert all the logo colors back to 2945cvc and delete the duplicate else it doesn't print correctly. if i choose to merge the swatches, i run into a bug in illustrator 9 that messes up cmyk to rgb conversions.

long story short, how do i prevent adding a duplicate ("pantone xxxCVC 1") swatch in illustrator when copy/pasting graphics?

(really sorry if this didn't make any sense)
     
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Feb 4, 2005, 12:38 AM
 
no, no, no. it has nothing to do with corel...

cvc means Computer Video Coated — it's a video simulation of how a PMS colour will print.

Read the skinny on naming conventions for Pantone colours here:

http://desktoppub.about.com/cs/color/a/pms_suffix.htm

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Feb 4, 2005, 08:21 AM
 
okay ... i stand corrected about the Corel thing, it's just that it's the only program that i've come across that uses CV naming convention. anyway, as i said, i was basing my reply on my experience.

but my main point is still correct in that it's just the NAMING convention. as long as you keep track of what PMS colour you are using, you'll be fine. just like your article said.

btw, regardless of whatever graphics program you use, on-screen display is ALWAYS a VIDEO SIMULATED representation of what it looks like on paper.
     
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Feb 4, 2005, 08:31 AM
 
Originally posted by iChelle:
thanks for the prompt response. i am using pantone 2945cvc in illustrator. sometimes when i copy the logo using this color into another document using the same swatch, there is a swatch problem and it asks to either add or merge the swatches. i chose to add it and now it has pantone 2945cvc and pantone 2945cvc 1 in the swatch palette. then i need to convert all the logo colors back to 2945cvc and delete the duplicate else it doesn't print correctly. if i choose to merge the swatches, i run into a bug in illustrator 9 that messes up cmyk to rgb conversions.

long story short, how do i prevent adding a duplicate ("pantone xxxCVC 1") swatch in illustrator when copy/pasting graphics?

(really sorry if this didn't make any sense)
merging the swatch SHOULD be the way you deal with the "same swatch, different name problem".

only suggestions i can think of is to bring your logo into a document right before you start building it, that way the swatch is defined in the beginning. however if you are bringing your logo into an existing document that already has work using the PMS colour, only simple solution i can think of is bring it into InDesign and use the ink manager to ALIAS one of the PMS colour to the other for proper printing.
     
   
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