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CMYK values to simulate a cream stock on white stock?
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just wondering if anyone knows a good CMYK value to simulate a nice cream stock on white paper?
I need to re-run a client's job, previously run on "luste" cream stock, on a gang press.... and so no choice of stock, its white or nothing.
And so the back of the card needs a light CMYK screen to make it look cream.... and actually I would like to modify the CMYK values of the equivalent spot colors on the front slightly to acheive the same look as if they were printed on cream stock as well......?
anyone has experience in this?
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I'd have to have a paper sample to do it right, but all I'd do is compare the paper with my handy pantone process swatch book, make a new color with the matching color, and make a background set to that color.
Unless there is texture in the nicer paper, I don't see what else to do?
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If you are printing four color process, why not scan the paper, make a tile of it, and use that as the background?
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yeah I tried that with the CMYK pantone book at first but couldn't find the right shade. Just now I used "the Color Bible" tho and I think a shade between two ok ones that I found. C=0 M=5 Y=12 K=0
So now I wonder if I can simply add those values onto the spot color CMYK equivalents to obtain the color shift a cream stock gives?? in thoery but not in practise maybe?
I think the problem with scanning a cream stock and tiling a sub-section is that with all the color shift you get from your scanner it might not end up that great. It would be ok I guess if everything was calibrated and we used color profiles but we don't where I work; its very rough and ready.
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you shouldn't have to shift your other colors if you set them to overprint, yes?
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Originally Posted by andi*pandi
you shouldn't have to shift your other colors if you set them to overprint, yes?
yes I was thinking about that, its sounds right.
How do I set the graphics to overprint the yellow screen background but not each other though? Or is that not an issue? I haven't done much playing around with the overprint function in Indesign.
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Having attempted this is the past I can honestly say that the results have never met my expectations.
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Actually, I just thought of something else - some paper companies (French, for one) have images of their paper available for mockup purposes.
Perhaps that would be better color than scanning it.
And I agree with a_d - the results, no matter what, are going to be difficult to match with the original. Make sure your client knows that going in!
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ok thanks. I had an awful feeling that I was about to start pissing into the wind..... 
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