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Fat Quark Trims?
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I was hoping someone could tell me if there is a way to fatten quark trims. I run film for offset printers....however screen printers require fatter trims. At present i rule them on with a tech pen. I have tried putting on manual trims but the default trims on quark corners aren't playing the game! Can anyone help?
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By "trims" do you mean frames/borders? Do you mean a bleed for a printer? I need some more specifics. If your drawing them in with a pen how are you doing so on film???
Maybe you can post a pic of what you mean or describe in more detail.
Sorry, I'm just lost by what you mean by "trims".
Mike
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I think the meaning of trims is the crop marks (and extending them out further than the default that Quark uses and gives) Then they are just 'extending' those marks with a pen.
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Sorry for the lack of info....
Trims refer to the cut marks placed automatically when choosing 'centred' in registration in the print window. The trim can be moved further out from the art (doc page) by nominating an offset to the art (normally set to 9pt).
These trims have a length of approx. 10mm and a width of .35pt.
I am curious as to fattening up the .35pt to .5pt or thicker for screen printing.
Hope this helps you help me!
Good Luck
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Your'e talking about bleeds I think
Yes you can adjust that when you print in Quark 4. X
Mike
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No he's talking about these...  and the ___ and | markes at the corners of the art.
To my knowledge there is no way to enlarge them sorry.
P.S.- They're called Registration Marks
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Originally posted by red_shoes:
<STRONG>I was hoping someone could tell me if there is a way to fatten quark trims. I run film for offset printers....however screen printers require fatter trims. At present i rule them on with a tech pen. I have tried putting on manual trims but the default trims on quark corners aren't playing the game! Can anyone help?</STRONG>
You can check with Extensis to see if any extension exists for this particular function, but I doubt it.
A temporary workaround would be to create a PDF, open the file in Acrobat and then edit the stroke of the crops in Illustrator.
[ 10-30-2001: Message edited by: buchrob ]
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cumbersome, annoying, yet old-fashioned way to do it:
1) frame your artwork with a border, and group it.
2) Paste into new document BIGGER than actual size.
3) Draw reg. marks thickness and length you desire.
4) make sure these marks are tagged as "registration" in color pallette
5) select your frame and set border width to zero.
6) print.
This is obnoxious, old-school, like digital pasteup. Blah.
It's also possible that some ripping software could do it.
The question is, why do they want thicker crop marks? I've never run across a vendor who complained about crops, be it from Page, Quark, or whatnot.
Good luck.
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I don't think you can set that option within Quark..
the only think I could suggest is doing a spread to plate if it's possible, or you could try running at a lower resolution.
I believe the crop marks are set to hariline, so the resolution is device dependant, try running a sheet of film at 1000 DPI and see if they get any fatter.
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well thanks to all......i think i'll just keep on with my tech pen!
As to why this particlar client wants thick trims......it matches his head shape!!! 
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If you need thicker rules for the crop-marks (they're crop-marks by the way, at least where I'm from) you may wish to set them yourself. Make a library of crop marks that you'll use again and again.
When you output you can just send without registration on, since you've already got crops within the layout.
I'm not sure if there even is a way to make the rules thicker on default registration marks in QuarkXPress.
Mike
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