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Sep 16, 2003, 04:27 PM
 
according to the film, 'The Life of David Gale', with Kevin Spacey, and kate Winslet. Just watched it today, and a really good film to boot. One of the points made in it, was that most of those deranged killers were Republicans. I wonder how much trueth there is to it. It'd certainly seem so on the surface.
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Sep 16, 2003, 04:32 PM
 
I doubt there's any way to confirm a statistic like that.

I assumed that the vast majority of serial killers and mass murderers were either Libertarians or Greens.
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Sep 16, 2003, 04:34 PM
 
Democrats try to be serial killers but fail because they're too stupid to avoid being caught.

     
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Sep 16, 2003, 04:35 PM
 
Well, a basic liberal precept is human rights and non-violence. It wouldn't really make sense the other way around. It's a case of squares are all rectangles but not all rectangles are squares.
     
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Sep 16, 2003, 04:40 PM
 

Because he's an excellent serial killer...
     
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Sep 16, 2003, 04:46 PM
 
well, an even larger percentage are male.
so, I guess we should keep an eye on all the men.

     
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Sep 16, 2003, 04:57 PM
 
Originally posted by Lerkfish:
well, an even larger percentage are male.
so, I guess we should keep an eye on all the men.

Lol, I see a pattern forming here, maybe it's time for women to be the dominant species once again, since we guys must be doing something wrong.
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Sep 16, 2003, 05:04 PM
 
Originally posted by version:
Lol, I see a pattern forming here, maybe it's time for women to be the dominant species once again, since we guys must be doing something wrong.
     
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Sep 16, 2003, 05:32 PM
 
Originally posted by ZackS:
Well, a basic liberal precept is human rights and non-violence. It wouldn't really make sense the other way around. It's a case of squares are all rectangles but not all rectangles are squares.
`cept for unborn babies...

Ack!! Where did THAT comment come from?
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Given the chance, a woman can be just as psychotic as any man.
     
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Sep 16, 2003, 06:02 PM
 
Originally posted by catsank:

Given the chance, a woman can be just as psychotic as any man.
God, I know. my mum suffered from really bad PMT, and once, when I was little, she chased a man down the street with a naxe, cause he tried to offend my dad. My mum, the miracle maker, lol
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Sep 16, 2003, 08:30 PM
 
Originally posted by BasketofPuppies:
I assumed that the vast majority of serial killers and mass murderers were either Libertarians or Greens.
Yeah, I'm sure the Green Party is hellbent on destorying the human race.
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Sep 16, 2003, 08:54 PM
 
The serial killer statistics -
  • The USA has 76% of the worlds serial killers.
  • Europe in second, has 17%. England has produced 28% of the European total; Germany produces 27%, and France produces 13%.
  • California leads in the US with the most Serial Homicide cases that have occured. Texas, New York, Illinois, and Florida follow shortly behind. Maine has the lowest occurence of serial murders - none. Hawaii, Montana, North Dakota, Delaware, and Vermont each have had only one case of a serial murder.
  • 84% of American killers are caucasian.
  • 16% are black.
  • Men make up at least 90% of the world wide total of serial killers.
  • 65% of victims are female.
  • 89% of victims are white.
  • 44% of all killers start in their twenties.
  • 26% start in their teens.
  • 24% start in their thirties.
  • Out of all the killers, 86% are heterosexual.

So demographically, it would be hard to speculate on party affiliation. The white male vote is pretty scattered. You'd need income, education level and age data to really try and correlate serial killers with either party's traditional demographics.
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Sep 16, 2003, 08:54 PM
 
Originally posted by Zimphire:
I saw a guy fly on the movie screen once.

I bet it was true. :)


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Sep 16, 2003, 08:59 PM
 
Have you ever really read The Bible, catsank?

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Sep 16, 2003, 09:05 PM
 
Originally posted by catsank:
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Sep 16, 2003, 10:07 PM
 
Originally posted by olePigeon:
Yeah, I'm sure the Green Party is hellbent on destorying the human race.
Yeah they are just out to get the loggers. You know put spikes in the trees.
     
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Sep 16, 2003, 10:33 PM
 
Originally posted by thunderous_funker:
The So demographically, it would be hard to speculate on party affiliation. The white male vote is pretty scattered. You'd need income, education level and age data to really try and correlate serial killers with either party's traditional demographics.
And even then it would be difficult to pinpoint the political affilation of serial killers and mass murderers. They're hardly normal people so demographics does not apply.

I still say that most of them are probably Greens or Libertarians.
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Sep 16, 2003, 10:34 PM
 
Originally posted by thunderous_funker:
The serial killer statistics -
  • The USA has 76% of the worlds serial killers.
  • Europe in second, has 17%. England has produced 28% of the European total; Germany produces 27%, and France produces 13%.
  • California leads in the US with the most Serial Homicide cases that have occured. Texas, New York, Illinois, and Florida follow shortly behind. Maine has the lowest occurence of serial murders - none. Hawaii, Montana, North Dakota, Delaware, and Vermont each have had only one case of a serial murder.
  • 84% of American killers are caucasian.
  • 16% are black.
  • Men make up at least 90% of the world wide total of serial killers.
  • 65% of victims are female.
  • 89% of victims are white.
  • 44% of all killers start in their twenties.
  • 26% start in their teens.
  • 24% start in their thirties.
  • Out of all the killers, 86% are heterosexual.

So demographically, it would be hard to speculate on party affiliation. The white male vote is pretty scattered. You'd need income, education level and age data to really try and correlate serial killers with either party's traditional demographics.
But 90% of the prison population is black men in their 20's?

How does this work? Why are white guys always getting off?
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Sep 16, 2003, 10:38 PM
 
Originally posted by Sherwin:
Democrats try to be serial killers but fail because they're too stupid to avoid being caught.



I think you have it the other way around, they think Republicans make up the majority because those are the ones that get caught more often. You proposal doesn't even make sense.

I hate murderers.

Also republicans.

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Sep 16, 2003, 10:43 PM
 
Originally posted by macvillage.net:
But 90% of the prison population is black men in their 20's?

How does this work? Why are white guys always getting off?
The data is for serial killers, not run of the mill normal murderers or gang bangers.
     
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Sep 16, 2003, 10:43 PM
 
Originally posted by macvillage.net:
But 90% of the prison population is black men in their 20's?

How does this work? Why are white guys always getting off?
Two reasons:

1. White criminals tend to have more expensive (read: better) lawyers and thus can get shorter sentances or off entirely.

2. Serial killers and mass murderers make an extremely small portion of the violent criminal population.

Not to mention that they often die violent deaths before they can be sent to trial.
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Sep 16, 2003, 10:50 PM
 
Originally posted by Stradlater:


I think you have it the other way around, they think Republicans make up the majority because those are the ones that get caught more often. You proposal doesn't even make sense.
Yes, it does. If someone gets caught easily (through their stupidity) then they're locked up before they can kill enough people to be classed as serial killers.

It takes intelligence to be a serial killer.

Of course, if you voted Republican you'd have had the intelligence to work this out for yourself.
     
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Sep 16, 2003, 11:12 PM
 
Originally posted by Sherwin:
Yes, it does. If someone gets caught easily (through their stupidity) then they're locked up before they can kill enough people to be classed as serial killers.

It takes intelligence to be a serial killer.

Of course, if you voted Republican you'd have had the intelligence to work this out for yourself.
not the greatest logic...the only real "proof" we have is that statistics say that republicans make up the majority of serial killers; until you provide a statistic saying a higher percentage of democrats are the regular ol' killers (although it may very well be that republicans dominate this field as well), your joke doesn't really work. but seeing as you seem to automatically vote republican (without looking deeper into the specifics), i can't expect you to work that out for yourself.

oh, and I'm not democratic, either, I usually lean to the left, but I'm independent.

OH, and as for the "intelligence" comment, you make it sound as if serial killers should be looked up to and praised...there's a great deal of luck and craziness involved in being a serial killer.
     
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Sep 16, 2003, 11:31 PM
 
Originally posted by Stradlater:
not the greatest logic...
Yes, it was.

Originally posted by Stradlater:
until I get a sense of humour, your joke doesn't really work.
Fair enough.

Originally posted by Stradlater:
but seeing as you seem to automatically vote republican (without looking deeper into the specifics), i can't expect you to work that out for yourself.
Nope.

Originally posted by Stradlater:
OH, and as for the "intelligence" comment, you make it sound as if serial killers should be looked up to and praised...there's a great deal of luck and craziness involved in being a serial killer.
It's a well established fact that serial killers are intelligent. Completely hatstand, but intelligent with it (intelligence and sanity are not the same thing).

Thus, reverse logic dictates that because intelligence is required and most SKs turn out to be Republican, Democrats must by default be generally too stupid for said lifestyle option.

     
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Sep 16, 2003, 11:35 PM
 
And the democrats are always criticizing us for executing these serial killers...

Now they know why!

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Sep 16, 2003, 11:42 PM
 
Originally posted by Sherwin:
Fair enough, also my humor involves changing people's quotations.
Originally posted by Sherwin:
It's a well established fact that serial killers are intelligent. Completely hatstand, but intelligent with it (intelligence and sanity are not the same thing).
...I never said serial killers aren't intelligent, I just added the fact that they're usually not sane, either . I was just pointing out that it seems like you look up to the people... What a sepulchral world we live in if people place killers on pedestals.

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Thus, reverse logic dictates that because intelligence is required and most SKs turn out to be Republican, Democrats must by default be generally too stupid for said lifestyle option.

There's a reason why most logic isn't easily reversible, because of the whole if all A is B, people then wrongly assume that all B must be A... Which is also why this statement of yours is ludicrous in its own right. Intelligence does not mean you should be serial killing, most intelligent people are not serial killers. Your logic is deplorable.
     
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Sep 16, 2003, 11:50 PM
 
So I wonder why hasn't this thread been moved yet...
     
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Sep 17, 2003, 12:09 AM
 
Didn't you know that 95% of statistics are made up on the spot?
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Sep 17, 2003, 12:09 AM
 
Kevin Spacey has done his share of killing. Didn't he murder Bad Pitts wife or something after killing a prostitute, fat guy and drug addict. You can't trust a serial killer. Oh yeah that was in a MOVIE.

I hope you're some kind of Republican troll because you doing a big disservice to your side with an argument based on a line in a movie. I'm far from being a Democrat but come up with something better than that. I normally don't post in the lounge but a line in a movie come on.

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Sep 17, 2003, 12:10 AM
 
Originally posted by Stradlater:
...I never said serial killers aren't intelligent, I just added the fact that they're usually not sane, either . I was just pointing out that it seems like you look up to the people... What a sepulchral world we live in if people place killers on pedestals.
What?

If you can come to that conclusion from what I've written, then you sir, need to check into some kind of clinic. Seriously.

Originally posted by Stradlater:
There's a reason why most logic isn't easily reversible, because of the whole if all A is B, people then wrongly assume that all B must be A... Which is also why this statement of yours is ludicrous in its own right. Intelligence does not mean you should be serial killing, most intelligent people are not serial killers. Your logic is deplorable.
By your admission to hating Republicans and your lack of judgement in understanding the humour so far presented, you prove the point far far better than I could have done.
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Sep 17, 2003, 12:15 AM
 
Originally posted by Sherwin:
What?

If you can come to that conclusion from what I've written, then you sir, need to check into some kind of clinic. Seriously.
I suggested that the way you said it sounded like you admired them, and then you went on about how they are intelligent (something I did not deny) and you never denied that you didn't look up to them, which isn't unheard of.

Originally posted by Sherwin:
By your admission to hating Republicans and your lack of judgement in understanding the humour so far presented, you prove the point far far better than I could have done.
Speaking of senses of humor, the hating-republicans was a joke added to my serial-killer sentiments. And I understood your humor, I just didn't find it funny. And what point am I proving, that democrats are less intelligent? This is what I'm assuming because of your previous comment. First of all, again: I'm not a democrat. Second of all, again: your logic is deplorable.
     
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Sep 17, 2003, 12:33 AM
 
Originally posted by Stradlater:
I suggested that the way you said it sounded like you admired them, and then you went on about how they are intelligent (something I did not deny) and you never denied that you didn't look up to them, which isn't unheard of.
So one cannot state facts without falling into a state of appreciation with subject of fact?

You've not denied being involved in logistical planning for 9/11 either. What kind of weird-ass logic are you actually using?

Originally posted by Stradlater:
Speaking of senses of humor, the hating-republicans was a joke added to my serial-killer sentiments.
I understood that it was humour. I just didn't find it funny.

Originally posted by Stradlater:
And what point am I proving, that democrats are less intelligent? This is what I'm assuming because of your previous comment. First of all, again: I'm not a democrat. Second of all, again: your logic is deplorable.
Ummmm... Let's see... You appear to be arguing the validity of logic used in a joke commenting on a line from a film.

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Sep 17, 2003, 12:38 AM
 
Originally posted by Sherwin:
You've not denied being involved in logistical planning for 9/11 either.
Haha, see what I mean with this guy's logic?

Originally posted by Sherwin:
I understood that it was humour. I just didn't find it funny.
I give things the benefit of the doubt, you give things your very own little story I explained that it was a joke because you tried to state it as fact.

Originally posted by Sherwin:
Ummmm... Let's see... You appear to be arguing the validity of logic used in a joke commenting on a line from a film.

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Sep 17, 2003, 12:50 AM
 
Originally posted by Stradlater:
Haha, see what I mean with this guy's logic?
Dude. You must live one boring life if you're asking for the gallery's approval about this.

Originally posted by Stradlater:
I explained that it was a joke because you tried to state it as fact.
Ermm... Nope. That post was in humour too.
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Originally posted by Sherwin:
Dude. You must live one boring life if you're asking for the gallery's approval about this.



Ermm... Nope. That post was in humour too.
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