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JHromadka · Dec 8, 2005 , 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

OMG look who is hosting the show!

http://www.citytv.com/cntm/index.asp

TGFT (Thank God for Torrents)

Dark Helmet · Dec 8, 2005 , 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by jcadam

She's so hot she made you forget your sexual orientation for a sec, didn't she?

Yes. To top it off the fag in my loves America's next top model so I nearly had an overload when I saw who was hosting this show.

Perhaps I'll stalk her when she's filming

Eug Wanker · Dec 21, 2005 , 12:34 PM

Battlestar Galactica Season 2.0 Review

Unfortunately, this 3-disc set is a little light on extras. I would have liked more behind-the-scenes material - maybe producer David Eick's video blog entries (from SciFi.com), etc. None of that is here, so hopefully we'll see it on Battlestar Galactica: Season 2.5 early next year. What you DO get includes some 43 deleted and extended scenes from the season's first 9 episodes, all in letterboxed widescreen (non-anamorphic). There's substantial material here - I'd guess over an hour of it - including a number of great scenes, interesting character moments and a whole flashback subplot that reveals how Adama and Tigh first met. Most of it was likely deleted simply because the episodes were running long (although there are a couple of scenes with Six and Baltar in the forest on Kobol that I'm guessing were cut because it was cold and actress Tricia Helfer's dress was a bit... well, you'll see). You also get all of Ron Moore's 'podcast' audio commentaries (also from SciFi.com), with a couple of exceptions. There's no podcast for the episode Fragged, but one was never recorded for download anyway. However, the podcast that WAS recorded for Flight of the Phoenix strangely hasn't been included. I've no idea why that is. Also, Moore's podcast for Pegasus hasn't been included either. There is, however, a reason for that. In the podcast for Pegasus, Moore alluded to the fact that the eventual DVD release would include an extended version of the episode with some 15 minutes of additional footage. We've learned that this extended version could not be completed in time for the release of Season 2.0 on disc, so it will be the first episode included on the Season 2.5 release early next year (presumably with commentary). That's understandable, and I'm okay with it. The missing Flight of the Phoenix commentary, however, is inexcusable (thankfully, you can still download it online here). I should note that this set also offers a brief "sneak peek" at what's ahead in the second half of the season.

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American Film Institute top 10 TV shows of 2005 (in alphabetical order)

24
BATTLESTAR GALACTICA
DEADWOOD
GREY’S ANATOMY
HOUSE
LOST
RESCUE ME
SLEEPER CELL
SOMETIMES IN APRIL
VERONICA MARS

I have not seen most of these shows. I have seen Grey's Anatomy though, but I didn't really like what I saw.

RAILhead · Dec 21, 2005 , 01:19 PM

Ahh yes. Tricia...

Dark Helmet · Dec 21, 2005 , 02:42 PM

I'm willing to bet the upcoming season will have one of the original toaster Cylons in it.

Eug Wanker · Dec 21, 2005 , 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

I'm willing to bet the upcoming season will have one of the original toaster Cylons in it.

I don't get it.

BTW, I recently saw on TV one of the later iteration Battlestar Galactica episodes - the series after the original one, but before the current series - where that strange genius kid has a flashback about Starbuck.

Starbuck makes friends with some whiney toaster Cyclon who talks too much and gets it on with a Sarah McLachlan lookalike alien psychowoman.

The episode was very strange, yet oddly amusing.

Dark Helmet · Dec 21, 2005 , 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

I don't get it.

Six said they are still in use.

Eug Wanker · Dec 21, 2005 , 03:00 PM

Meh on the toaster. I'd much rather see Mr. Glowhead.

mrtew · Dec 21, 2005 , 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Six said they are still in use.

I can never figure out which ones they call toasters. It seems like they call the ones we see all the time in the new series toasters. Are those the ones that the humans invented 40something years ago? Or did they invent the ones pictured above and they 'evolved' into the ones we see today? They did show one of the true toasters in the pilot so there has got to be some explanation. They wouldn't have been so sloppy to show it without knowing there would be some questions that needed answers eventually.

SpaceMonkey · Dec 21, 2005 , 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by mrtew

I can never figure out which ones they call toasters. It seems like they call the ones we see all the time in the new series toasters. Are those the ones that the humans invented 40something years ago? Or did they invent the ones pictured above and they 'evolved' into the ones we see today? They did show one of the true toasters in the pilot so there has got to be some explanation. They wouldn't have been so sloppy to show it without knowing there would be some questions that needed answers eventually.

I don't think "toaster" in the new series refers to any specific model--I think I remember one of the characters referring to the humanoid Cylons as toasters at one point. As far as I can tell, it's just an all-encompassing slur for all things Cylon. Its World War Two equivilent would be "Jap."

Dark Helmet · Dec 21, 2005 , 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey

I don't think "toaster" in the new series refers to any specific model--I think I remember one of the characters referring to the humanoid Cylons as toasters at one point. As far as I can tell, it's just an all-encompassing slur for all things Cylon. Its World War Two equivilent would be "Jap."

Yes and no.

Balter when first finding out Six was a Cylon said the last time he say a cylon they looked like walking chrome toasters, hence the above pic.

NOW everyone on the show still calls the Cylons Toasters (even the human models) because it stuck from the models 40 years ago.

So to answer the question.. all cylons are referred to as toasters but the name comes from the old model.

Dark Helmet · Dec 21, 2005 , 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by mrtew

Or did they invent the ones pictured above and they 'evolved' into the ones we see today?

Yes, the above one is the models humans created 40 years ago and the ones today are the evolved versions.

Spliff · Dec 21, 2005 , 11:48 PM

A nitpick.

Maybe you all covered this already, but I don't feel like going through 11 pages of this thread.

I just watched episode 2x09 where Boomer jams the fiber optic cable into her hand. How come they can't distinguish cylons from humans even though cylons have a fiber optic jack in their hands?

Dark Helmet · Dec 22, 2005 , 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by Spliff

A nitpick.

Maybe you all covered this already, but I don't feel like going through 11 pages of this thread.

I just watched episode 2x09 where Boomer jams the fiber optic cable into her hand. How come they can't distinguish cylons from humans even though cylons have a fiber optic jack in their hands?

True, no answer for that one.

cpt kangarooski · Dec 22, 2005 , 12:37 AM

Well, they're pretty good about remembering this sort of thing. I need to rewatch the eps, but Baltar already got yelled at because Boomer slipped through his test. Now they know something new, and they'll probably figure out a way to look for it.

Of course, if it were my job to explain this away, I'd say that the Cylons had very good nanotechnology developed, and interfaces like Boomer used are designed to be built within the body on an as-needed basis, so that the Cylons are harder to ferret out.

SpaceMonkey · Dec 22, 2005 , 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by cpt kangarooski

Of course, if it were my job to explain this away, I'd say that the Cylons had very good nanotechnology developed, and interfaces like Boomer used are designed to be built within the body on an as-needed basis, so that the Cylons are harder to ferret out.

No need for any technical explanation. It's 'cause she's HOT. No one's looking at her hands.

mrtew · Dec 22, 2005 , 06:11 AM

Originally Posted by cpt kangarooski

Of course, if it were my job to explain this away, I'd say that the Cylons had very good nanotechnology developed, and interfaces like Boomer used are designed to be built within the body on an as-needed basis, so that the Cylons are harder to ferret out.

That wouldn't explain it to me! How can a body be full of millions of tiny robots that can rebuild it in different ways and them not be noticable? Unless of course the use normal bloodcells etc. for this purpose. Muwahahahahha.

Eug Wanker · Dec 22, 2005 , 10:21 AM

BTW, the old model Cylon is actually in the new show. It's in the Galactica museum in the 2003 miniseries.

P.S. What's with the overuse of the star filter in all the Cylon pix?

cpt kangarooski · Dec 22, 2005 , 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by mrtew

That wouldn't explain it to me! How can a body be full of millions of tiny robots that can rebuild it in different ways and them not be noticable? Unless of course the use normal bloodcells etc. for this purpose. Muwahahahahha.

Why not? If someone goes to take a sample, the nanites leave the area where it's being taken from. If the body dies, the nanites break themselves up. Build them out of the same sorts of materials as in ordinary cells, and they might be hard to find chemically. And there probably don't need to be millions of them -- just enough to make more on demand. The advanced Cylons probably are mostly human; they can be stronger, or have more stamina, and can communicate wirelessly or with wires, but that seems to be about the limit of their special abilities (as seen so far).

But the main way that they were unnoticed was that none of the Colonials knew, until the miniseries and S1, that there were Cylons that looked human. If you're not looking for them, they don't have to hide very hard. And now most of the Colonials are dead, and haven't got the greatest resources to go around, so it's a pain for them to notice. Even the magical Cylon detector takes hours to process a sample, and is being run by a half-mad, half-insane lunatic.